originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: criticalhit
What did you do for work to pay your rent while you were doing all this?
Not much man, the only way was lowering expenses to a degree that most people would call "not having a life" in reality and it took me a long time
and only NOW am I getting it right, I had to mentally ditch "everything" I had come to believe growing up stateside constituted a life... Meditation
had to replace "going out" the TV and Cable got turned off, went 2 years w/o a car, shut off the gas in summer and barbecued or just ate salad and
stuff and took cold showers, I got food boxes from charity every month. athletics became my recreation I actually became "that guy" from a dating ad
who "likes long walks in nature" lol.... lived in a trailer so rent was cheap as cheap gets...
When I said before a business begins with a laptop a phone and a domain, i'm not kidding
Doesn't mean I made much of anything, most clients went bad at first (was a bit out of my mind for sure) but ONLY because of my Mind if that makes
sense, my sense of expectations of how I should live for lack of a better word as an American
Look man, more than one Lawyer has started his career as example, with no office, living out of a car 100 G in debt
It's just not our culture to make "our career" "our lives" we are obsessed with crap and showing off...
I'm FAR from rich, I finally have a nice ride... but honestly, it's because I am driven to get a very specific something done, and I wanted that bad
enough to change MYSELF, it's hard to explain but by nature of divorce I became so POOR and I FEAR going to jail so bad and it got soooo low, I lost
materialism and from there I was able to start, I realized I COULD be homeless with a laptop these days and suddenly have money even if I only made
600 bucks (and that's extreme) I chose health instead of drowning my sorrows... started watching Chinese Kung Fu with these beggers in rags who had
more skills than anyone I knew, Forest Gumped it and just walked (I hate running) and with it all came.... I dunno? "Sanity"
Tony Robbins talks about it, for a lot, a lot, a lot of people getting wealthy comes from hitting rock bottom, your there and your ALIVE and you
either want to be even though you have nothing at all or you don't and from there, 19 hrs a day for the equivalent of a fast food salary at first
just feels 1000x better if your doing something you actually enjoy than a 401 K and 60 a year left with nothing because your brain "needs" this crap
or that crap
I don't "need" anything, water and a salad (which is free at happy hr) taco Tuesdays lol and then ALL of you into SOMETHING
This is the "what" Mr Economics who is berating me just "doesn't get" in regards to why China beat our arses and why India is Next...
Unemployment doesn't mean squat to people who come from a Rice Paddy, Unemployment is a Western Fear these days by the standard of "big house"
"obscene meals" "lively expensive social life" "free time" but the experience of "NOTHING" is actually AMAZING, the food kills you, the
nightlife kills you, free time is usually with cash in pocket a recipe for becoming stupid, If a "house" is a place to "sleep and study" you CAN
pack 10 family members in and not pay squat and get rich IF they are on the same page...
Unemployed or not... if your educated and spend ALL your time doing "something", "something happens" is it a good enough start? NOT IF YOUR
KEEPING UP WITH THE JONSES... which is where the "I have to have a job" thing begins
You said before... "the immigrants work for nothing" I'd offer for many of them the paradigm is different... The goal is to save money and they
base their lives around their work not spending and any money at all accumulates if not spent and most Americans refuse to admit they are POOR so of
course the priority is Spending "I can barely even cover my overhead" For those who know destitution there is NO OVERHEAD lol...
You also said " They had investors" DEFINITELY NOT before they did something, some people are just Geeks like Steve Jobs or Zuckerberg so they have
"this" naturally and Truth, a lot of my life it was there already i was just diverted at times, I'm a giant nerd, I have the fascination for
learning. Zuckerberg DID spend 2 days at a time coding without sleeping... for most Americans "There are labor laws against that" lol... and
whatever these cats had or didn't at first that isn't the reason, your talking about people who... virtually did nothing else, whose passion became
the entirety of their lives, The kid who built the Occulus, probably never left the house for 3 years he solved a 30 year vision related issue since
Jaron lanier pioneered VR...
We in our society call people like this... NUTS, i'd offer... not being focused on the "external" the opposite of nuts, the place where you become
genuinely human and interesting for real.
That place of becoming "human" absolutely is NOT, doing stuff you hate so you can dress better being a slave for others, never expressing yourself
or not even knowing yourself well enough to have anything that fascinates you enough to do it all the time, we have expressions of personality warped
into us in HS here... "I'm a preppie" or a "druggie" or a "rocker" or whatever... instead of, "I design eco friendly structures" or "create
virtual worlds" or even just "garden"
Do you expect to be "hired" for your "passions" hell no not right out the gate, but keep doing and "something" happens... again is poverty worse
than slavery? No.... Truth is you can do poverty with hella Dignity if your NOT a Consumer