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originally posted by: thesmokingman
a reply to: Cuervo
What's christianmingle.com?
You do understand there are many, many, many black christians dont you?
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: thesmokingman
a reply to: Cuervo
What's christianmingle.com?
You do understand there are many, many, many black christians dont you?
Absolutely. But black Christians represent a minority among the Christian body just like they do in the rest of our population. I just used that as an example but it could have been any of the basic mainstream dating sites. I wasn't implying they exclude black people nor that there are black Christians. Blackpeoplemeet.com doesn't exclude anybody, either.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
a reply to: Cuervo
You know it would exclude black people because there's already a billion dating sites filled with mostly white people.
Maybe perhaps that is because there are a lot more whites in the population? There is certainly NOT a dating site exclusively FOR white people.....nor do I want one by the way...just pointing out the error in your thinking.
originally posted by: thesmokingman
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: thesmokingman
a reply to: Cuervo
What's christianmingle.com?
You do understand there are many, many, many black christians dont you?
Absolutely. But black Christians represent a minority among the Christian body just like they do in the rest of our population. I just used that as an example but it could have been any of the basic mainstream dating sites. I wasn't implying they exclude black people nor that there are black Christians. Blackpeoplemeet.com doesn't exclude anybody, either.
But it IS called Blackpeoplemeet.com right? Is that not really excluding any particular race?
originally posted by: Edumakated
Anytime I hear white folks start talking about stuff like the OP, it is a dog whistle to me for racism. I'd have no problem with a Scottish organization or an Irish organization which for the most part are going to be 100% white. However, just claiming some generic "white culture" is a bunch of BS.
originally posted by: Mastronaut
originally posted by: Edumakated
Anytime I hear white folks start talking about stuff like the OP, it is a dog whistle to me for racism. I'd have no problem with a Scottish organization or an Irish organization which for the most part are going to be 100% white. However, just claiming some generic "white culture" is a bunch of BS.
I think the OP has valid reasons to question the self-segregation. I don't think his argument applies to white since there is no white culture. However there is no black culture either unless you define who's black and who's not. Are creoles black? Are all African coming from the same cultural environment? I don't think so. Are southern indians and aboriginals black aswell? Yes but they aren't of the black culture we are talking about.
So in fact using "black" is racist and enforces the racist origin since what we are talking about is a culture that is formed from slaves. "Negro" is a banned therm, but had some meaning (wheter racist or not was an anthropological therm) and was kind of defining a certain ethnicity, but not surely a culture.
There is no way to segregate and avoid totally the racism problem. I think using colors is totally wrong and misleading, whatever color you use. If there was less politically correctness and we started leaving racism as a problem of the past there could be less issues. But it's like semites and jews, if you say something against jews you are anti-semite, but if you say the same things against palestinians (who are semites aswell) you aren't tagged.
I strongly believe that word-banninng and self-segregation won't do anything besides creating more tension.
originally posted by: Edumakated
To say there is no black culture shows your ignorance. Ever since black people were brought to America as slaves, we've had our own unique culture when it comes to food, language, entertainment, and even religion.
I've been the "only one" in a sea of white faces more times than I can count. It doesn't bother me. However, when I want to enjoy my own culture, I am thankful for BET, black colleges, soul food restaurants, and a host of other businesses or organizations that cater to my unique needs.
originally posted by: Qumulys
a reply to: Edumakated
Genuinely want to understand what you mean exactly by 'your own unique needs'? We all need love, support, food, shelter, work - I can't quite get this unique needs thing.
That's kind of like me saying I'll just pop on this sheet for a sec and pop down to the local white needs clubs. Surely that kind of thinking and segradation is antiquated and highly counter productive in a true multicultural society?
Generations ago the english dumped crims in Australia. Torn away from loved ones, granted no where near as bad as slavery in the US, but still dodgy if you ask me. We don't whinge about it, instead we've built a fairly decent and open society remembering the past and trying to learn from it.
Where is the next MLK going to come from? They are desperately needed right now to heal this onslaught of residual anger, they need to forgive the past to break this cycle, then they need to forgive themselves for the gang mentality and self deprevation and needlessly mentally caging children in a country where everyone else is ready and willing for openness.