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The Royal British Empire "South Atlantic Tunnels" conspiracy

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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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Given the source, I think this is the forum where I should post. The title is made by me around the 2 things that comes out from the link below.

I was looking around for some more informations about Karen Hudes, a WB whistleblower which claims some very exceptional thing I won't discuss in this thread; I'll just give you the context where I found this fascinating conspiracy theory.
A user named Tristan De Cuna replies in the post and give a very intriguing story about him. I'll quote some of his post to give a rough idea.



Just to recap for those who did not read my previous comments – I am a so called “domestic “ for some very influential people (who are actually servants themselves) on an Island group centred around Tristan da Cuhna in the South Atlantic. This is ostensibly a British Protectorate, however it is actually owned, along with a sizable chunk of the planet, by the Royal British Empire (which is set above the British Government and is an arm of the Crown). The administration (and I mean the real administration not the show version) of this entire region, from Accession Island, to St Helena, to South Georgia, to the Falklands, is carried out by the East India Company. Heard of that? Yes it never went away, just moved into the shadows.

There are many islands around this one, some of which do not appear on charts or on Google Earth. The basic set-up here is that some of the islands hide bunkers and vaults for the super rich and the elite bloodline families. It also acts as a kind of Freeport region, where super valuable and rare art, ancient artefacts, and other treasures (including people) are stored and traded.


I am a fan of Google-earth-ing remote places and see the beauty of nature, so I knew this area of the atlantic and I knew a bit of the story around the island there. It's not hard to make up facts that match real events, but it's what makes stories interesting. I was aware of 1961 evacuation and 2006 oil platform incident, so anyone could have known with a bit of research.



In later years all the main rather obvious entrances to the bunker and vault complexes were covered and sealed (on Tristan only) by creating a controlled release from the geothermal heat exchangers around the main lava chamber used to power the complexes. This was done in 1961. All people were removed at this time to allow heavy undersea drilling equipment to come close to shore to create wide below sea level entrances to all the old facilities on all the islands, under the excuse of the evacuation being required for their own protection. The escape hatches remain and are sometimes opened to allow betas (MK servants) to exercise on the surface. The escape hatches are substantial and consist of partially buried and camouflaged steel double doors, leading down to a further set of armoured watertight doors.

In 2006 and 2007 an oil platform was used to provide cover for a secret drilling programme which widened the entrances sufficiently to negate the need to don diving gear – the complexes could all now be entered and exited using submersible vehicles. The cover story was that an old oil platform had broken away off the coast of Africa and by some fluke had managed to steer itself towards and then around several of the islands around Tristan before finally coming to rest in Tristan harbour. LOL, that people actually believed the story. Apparently a network of tunnels linking the islands with luxury bunkers with Tristan was created / extended at the same time.


This is the link to the reply from the guy who presents himself as an insider.
SGTreport

Fascinating isn't it? It does have some nice analogies and is verisimilar. What do you guys think about it? Is there some falsifiable info or some other info supporting it?




posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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I find the story intriguing and to an extent believable. It amazes me how much a few governments are able to spend annually, it amazes me even more how much is unaccounted for. It would certainly help explain trillions of missing taxpayer money.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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In 2006 and 2007 an oil platform was used to provide cover for a secret drilling program me which widened the entrances sufficiently to negate the need to don diving gear – the complexes could all now be entered and exited using submersible vehicles.

Read that submarines…

I remember reading a SOF article in the 80's about an undersea tunnel that stretched from off shore to inside Lebanon. Subs could pull up, deliver arms and personnel without being detected.

No, I don't have the magazine or the link.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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S n F just for bringing a conspiracy! I too have spent more then one Sunday morning trying to dig up anything new in regards, Karen Hudes claims. I will have to explore the areas you are speaking of...I view Malta in a similar fashion as you present Tristan here, at least its former use, say pre-15th century?

Sometimes when I muse over "how can people do that?" kind of things, Karen Hudes conspiracy really does explain nicely the "how"...alas thats not concrete information, but it occupies some time. Kind of hard not to derail your thread into Hudes speculating, so Ill shove off now.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:39 PM
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Gibbering fantasy.

The invention of secret societies e.g. the Royal British Empire, that are all-powerful, but undetected is like saying it's run by a rabbit called Paul. You can neither provide evidence it's true, nor evidence it's false.

I this case it's so implausible that it'll be false.

However, the island were a secret base for British communications and monitioring during WW2. Also, due to the volcanic nature of the islands, geothermal may have neen investigated in the past. I think St Helena has geothermal and that Island is part of the wider British Overseas terriitory that Tristan da Cunha is part of.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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I mentioned I didn't want to discuss Karen Hudes here because it's a complex and different subject from the story of this guy, but since this post is a reply to an article about her (and she even reply at some point in the comments) it's not exactly "derailing". My opinion is that what she says has some merit, but I didn't research enough yet. What is strange is that I can't find any info on her family which is strange, every article or biography starts with her studies at Yale.

However I didn't want to mix up aliens and this theory about TPTB, because for many reasons it would limit the interest in the subject for some.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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Enjoyable read.
S+F.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi
Gibbering fantasy.

The invention of secret societies e.g. the Royal British Empire, that are all-powerful, but undetected is like saying it's run by a rabbit called Paul. You can neither provide evidence it's true, nor evidence it's false.

I this case it's so implausible that it'll be false.

However, the island were a secret base for British communications and monitioring during WW2. Also, due to the volcanic nature of the islands, geothermal may have neen investigated in the past. I think St Helena has geothermal and that Island is part of the wider British Overseas terriitory that Tristan da Cunha is part of.


I posted in the grey area for a reason, but I don't see the reason to be so sure this is completely false. The Royal British Empire doesn't seem a secret society, it is explained as the East India Company going underground, something that makes perfect sense in the view of post WWII world. We also know for sure that the top 0.1% doesn't have the life of "normal" or even super-rich people. Hell, I'd say not even the top 5% have a lifestyle we can comprehend, so I wouldn't discount certain behaviours just because we can't see any meaning of them.

Also your claim of a secret base kinda supports the idea that something may have been developed at later times by the British Army. But what I am intrested in is if there are some reports of uncharted islands in the zone (even heresays or rumors from some cargo guy) or if there is some evident falsifiable thing the guy mentioned in his reply.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:51 PM
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Well one direction I started taking in researching the Hudes information/dis information was to look up the origin of the family name, I found this interesting and rich in possible conspiracy : HUDES NAME MEANING Jewish (eastern Ashkenazic): southern and central Yiddish dialect variant of Hodes.

heres some known Hudes:

1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Psachja Hudes
SPOUSE: Rachael Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1857 - Poland
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Vienna, Austria
RESIDENCE: New York, Kings, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Rachael Hudes
SPOUSE: Psachja Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1862 - Poland
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Vienna, Austria
RESIDENCE: New York, Kings, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Jennie J Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1863 - Michigan
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Rockford, Kent, Michigan
RESIDENCE: Rockford, Kent, Michigan
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Rose Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1863 - Jerselaum
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New York, Kings, New York
RESIDENCE: New York, Kings, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: C B Hudes
SPOUSE: Anna Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1865 - Iowa
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Gentry, Benton, Arkansas
RESIDENCE: Gentry, Benton, Arkansas
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Earon M Hudes
SPOUSE: Rosa C Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1866 - Louisiana
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New Roads, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana
RESIDENCE: New Roads, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: John Hudes
SPOUSE: Edna Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1866 - Louisiana
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi
RESIDENCE: Vicksburg, Warren, Mississippi
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Anna Hudes
SPOUSE: C B Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1868 - Iowa
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Gentry, Benton, Arkansas
RESIDENCE: Gentry, Benton, Arkansas
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: John Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1870 - Austria-Hungary
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Salem, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
RESIDENCE: Salem, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Rosa C Hudes
SPOUSE: Earon M Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1874 - Louisiana
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New Roads, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana
RESIDENCE: New Roads, Pointe Coupee, Louisiana
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Philip Hudes
SPOUSE: Sarah Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1876 - Austria
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
RESIDENCE: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Lillian Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1876 - Rhode Island
RESIDENCE: 1935 - St Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida
RESIDENCE: St Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Nick Hudes
SPOUSE: Frances Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1877
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Canton, Stark, Ohio
RESIDENCE: Canton, Stark, Ohio
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Alexander Hudes
SPOUSE: Mary Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1878 - Russia
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New York, Kings, New York
RESIDENCE: New York, Kings, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Mary Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1878 - Hungary
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New York, New York, New York
RESIDENCE: New York, New York, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Sarah Hudes
SPOUSE: Philip Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1878 - Romania
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
RESIDENCE: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Isidore Hudes
SPOUSE: Pauline Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1880 - Russia
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New York, Bronx, New York
RESIDENCE: New York, Bronx, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Frances Hudes
SPOUSE: Nick Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1881
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Canton, Stark, Ohio
RESIDENCE: Canton, Stark, Ohio
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Israel Hudes
SPOUSE: Ida Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1882 - Russia
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New York, Kings, New York
RESIDENCE: New York, Kings, New York
1940 United States Federal Census
U.S. FEDERAL CENSUS COLLECTIONView Image
NAME: Nathan Hudes
SPOUSE: Celia Hudes
BIRTH: abt 1882 - Poland
RESIDENCE: 1935 - New York, Kings, New York
RESIDENCE: New York, Kings, New York

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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 02:51 PM
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Chances of there being some rich powerful people running most of this world are near one hundred percent. I am sure they have secure getaways somewhere, these Islands could be a part of it. Our government has big underground complexes too. If they don't, I would say that our rulers are stupid and should not be in charge of anything. Chances of big complex bunkers in the US is 100 percent. Same with Russia. If Saddam Hussein had them, I am sure most governments with wealth have them too. They are not for the regular people though, we are on our own. The ones who start the wars get them and of course the super rich will probably have them too. Who wouldn't build an underground bunker system if you were a billionaire.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Chances of there being some rich powerful people running most of this world are near one hundred percent. I am sure they have secure getaways somewhere, these Islands could be a part of it. Our government has big underground complexes too. If they don't, I would say that our rulers are stupid and should not be in charge of anything.

Exactly, it would be stupid not to have them. Just in case.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 03:07 PM
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I tried to find the other posts on sgtreport of this Tristan guy, I found this list and checked them all
Google search
Some are repetitions (I'd say there are 2 double posts as he repeats things he said in other comments), some others have slightly diferent details. Just open the page and search for "Tristan De Cuna" to get to his posts.

To sum it up, there is a global elite that controls the world and plays with people.
- This is elite is not a single entity and the bloodlines are divided in 3 main "factions": Anglo-American-Israeli, Eastern Asian, North European-Russian. These factions are not operating together in harmony, in his opinion one of them will be in charge after the next global collapse.
- There is a network of lava tunnels adapted to be bunkers, vaults and military facilities in the south atlantic and probably in antarctica. This place has been chosen because it's far away from where the mahyem will happen. These bunkers are protected from EMP and nuclear fallof in addition to tsunami-proof.
- ISIS will turn to Israel and Israel will have a reason to use nukes and there will be a following global economical collapse after this Middle East event.
- There has been a past civilization on earth of which pyramidal structures are the relics.
- We can't do anything to stop the plan because it's already ongoing. Nobody has the power to do anything so they don't care about "whistleblowers" and when they care they succeed in making them disappear without us knowing s###t
- People are controlled by MK Ultra/ELF mind controlling techniques to keep quiet
- The movie Salò of Pasolini (italian poet/writer/director who was murdered in the 70s and is still a mistery) describes the child/human abuse of the elite and is based on facts that led to his murder

An all-in-one conspiracy that would span multiple forums

At least I know where to go if things get too bad here in Europe!

From this link



Much gossip is spoken on these small islands, as when the servants of the elite arrive with valubles or to remove valuables they have mostly have a feeling of total security – that no one can reach them (or their masters if they visit too) here or in their deep caves and bunkers. This is afterall one of the most remote locations on Earth. As one of the remotest places on earth, away from the matrix of deciet in the northern hemisphere, lips are loose and talk is easy. Please be aware that the elite themselves do not often step onto this island, they tend to stay on large protected vessels close by. Only their servants with art, artefacts, and other valuables come ashore.

The servants of the elite dont care if I or others here use their uplink to the British military comsats and then link to servers in the UK to access the net (I use randomly chosen UK based IP and email address so I cant do one-to-one replies). They dont care what I say, and besides this stuff has all been out in the open for years and is nothing new.




There are apparently several different factions and several groups of international super-elite, from what I can determine through the noise of information overload.

Apparently several elite groups are fighting for dominance, neither of which have the interests of the people in mind – only their own power and dominance of this planet.

Basically, there is an Anglo-American (and Israeli) ‘Beast’ system group, an eastern/asian totalitarian system group (in motion), and a north European/Russian dictatorship group (still to be fully formed but preparing to be blitzrigued across Europe soon).




The super elite (most of whom carry the ancient blood lines traced back to King David, some even further – as far back as the fallen ones in one case) hold almost all of the planets real wealth. They have access to ancient texts and documents which contain knowledge and information which would cause the history books to be re-written. They guard this knowledge, as of course, he who has the knowledge has the power.




I have also been told they dont like each other and have been known to cheat at this great chess game, sometimes becoming sore losers and setting each other up for real harm. Certain French, Russian, and German members of the bloodline have in the past been fed to the dogs (the people) as a result of this, usually in the form of a created revolution or uprising that causing the dumb savages/dogs/cattle (the people) to turn on their masters.

With regard to the coming (or rather planned as the game is still in play) beast system, the Anglo-Americans (and Israelis) plan to create no less than a false Armageddon. But even if the Anglo-American-Israelis dont pull it off, the eastern elites will ensure that Europe and the US falls under one of them (we can see the battle for Europe being played out now in Ukraine and Germany).




With regards to ISIS, well, I have been told that the ISIS people are just useful idiots – they are the nilists and the ‘origin of savagery’ as General Pike wrote about in his infamous letter to Mazzuni.

It is intended they will be used to eventually attack Israel – so Israel can use nuclear weapons on them (and on Damascus) in order to produce a false Armageddon situation to shock the world, enabling them to take Syria and the lands ISIS have seized. There is a big clue in the name ISIS.
This will of course bring upon Israel their destruction as they will be overrun by millions of angry Muslims – Islam and political Zionism mutually destroyed as General Pike predicted.

This will enable the elite to introduce a pacemaker to lead the world into a peaceful and united world order where war can not happen again (the beginning of the beast system roll out). After the global chaos of a (regional not global) nuclear exchange and third world war, the people will be desperate for peace and will be presented with a savior figure.

It is important to be mindful that a ‘false Armageddon’ type event will involve a limited small scale nuclear exchange in the middle east which could extend to emp events or small nukes in north american or european cities if the shock and horror is not sufficient to cower the masses.


Here are some other links in the list above.
About South California water shortage
The movie Salò of Pier Paolo Pasolini and ties with children abuse



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 03:47 PM
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I got totally swallowed up by SGTreport and got sidetracked on Hudes again in some of the comments and got taken on quite a long ride.

I did read Tristan De Cuna's remarks...I cant say they are terribly original in regards the false apocalypse scenario, but the notion of these islands being used for at least the last 300 years has peaked my interest, so I really appreciate the new fodder OP.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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Mmm, indeed. This certainly is a new and interesting angle. I wonder, I wonder.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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I have said for a while now that all those mini quakes in Oklahoma have been from underground digging and tunneling, not from fracking. The quakes all range from 3.0 to mostly 4.0. What are they tunneling for? Maybe underground bunkers, or they're connecting a network. As for secret societies and plutocracy, that's pretty much a given. I think they've just begun to have the sex trade they're into exposed although its been quieted up by the media.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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There are many islands around this one, some of which do not appear on charts or on Google Earth.


citation required

seriously - this is an actual claim that COULD [ if true ] be demonstrated .

but .................... crickets



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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It makes good sense that if their was a big war, the elite would have organised a bolthole. That they could get to fast. It would have to be like a mini society, with everything that sustains etc. The volcano being a constant source of power not requiring anything to be shipped in, sounds like a great candidate .Everything could be controlled. Under this theory it would have to be staffed by the elites trusted servants . They would have had their evacuation orders, along with all the other procedures involved.

The Psychology of this scenario, would be akin to the RSG's in Britain, if the curtain goes up , only those in the know would be allowed to enter the underground base . Anyone else would be executed, or made to work for food . We know this type of thing existed in the cold war. A place like this would be used in the event of M.A.D. where the total culling of the human race occurred. If it was true back then , then its more than true now.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: Dutchowl
I have said for a while now that all those mini quakes in Oklahoma have been from underground digging and tunneling, not from fracking. The quakes all range from 3.0 to mostly 4.0. What are they tunneling for? Maybe underground bunkers, or they're connecting a network. As for secret societies and plutocracy, that's pretty much a given. I think they've just begun to have the sex trade they're into exposed although its been quieted up by the media.


If you look at earthquakes in New Mexico (where there should be alleged underground bases) the magnitude is about 5.0. Maybe they could have been nukes, but I don't know. So 3.0-4.0 might be some kind of underground tunnel tech evolved.
Unfortunately fracking is seomthing known to produce such earthquakes, but who knows, maybe it's a strawman to cover up a bigger project?



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 08:46 PM
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If evidence of something like MK-Ultra programming came out in addition to the pedophile scandals then that would be a total game changer. I don't know how they would sidestep something like that.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 08:55 PM
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originally posted by: Mastronaut

originally posted by: Dutchowl
I have said for a while now that all those mini quakes in Oklahoma have been from underground digging and tunneling, not from fracking. The quakes all range from 3.0 to mostly 4.0. What are they tunneling for? Maybe underground bunkers, or they're connecting a network. As for secret societies and plutocracy, that's pretty much a given. I think they've just begun to have the sex trade they're into exposed although its been quieted up by the media.


If you look at earthquakes in New Mexico (where there should be alleged underground bases) the magnitude is about 5.0. Maybe they could have been nukes, but I don't know. So 3.0-4.0 might be some kind of underground tunnel tech evolved.
Unfortunately fracking is seomthing known to produce such earthquakes, but who knows, maybe it's a strawman to cover up a bigger project?


Its been known that if you let a small nuke off underground, it forms a big glass lined cavern . A nicely formed self supporting cave. The life of the radiation would be short, and after a few weeks you could start to make the place operational. Maybe that's what they are up to. Fooling everyone into thinking global warming when its really an escape from an ice age.



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