UN Report Reveals How Israel is Coordinating with ISIS Militants Inside Syria

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: buster2010

100+ year old tradition? Israel hasn't been around for a hundred years simple.

Its been around longer than a Palestinian state has.

Zing. The kicker is they could have started on the exact same day, the Jews wanted two states .. but Palestinians said no and demanded all the land. They wanted the Jews to be restricted and living under their thumb as their overlords.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

That's a highly skewed look at it. When Britain came in and decided the land should be given to someone else, specifically people not from the region of course the natives are not going to want a 2 state solution. That's just absolutely asinine.

Who in their right minds would be ok with that? So many who support israel get butt hurt about Mexicans immigrating to america, shouldn't it be ok for them to come and set up Aztelan in the american southwest? It was all mexico less time ago than Davids Israel existed. But no because the truth is it's all do to race.

The logical fallacies believed by people who support the judeo-christian reich are utterly insane.
You think Britain would have went out on a limb if all the Jewish people that were being immigrated were sephardic or arab? Hell no, they did it because they were white jewish people, it's just another case of white imperialism using whatever ham fisted excuses they can to supplant a native population and to expand the holy empires.

No one wants to be ruled by foreign conquerors. The very idea that a population is unreasonable because they don't want their livelyhoods and homeland occupied is such a backasswards neo-liber-con sentiment it hurts my brain. Where the heck did people learn critical thinking skills?

My Fiances family never left Poland for that very reason, they may be jewish but they were poles, Palestine wasn't theirs and they weren't going to be threatened by a bunch of douchebags that refused to see their contribution and dedication to their homeland.

The fact that so many of the people conflate being jewish and being Israeli is not only disrespectful but bigoted in the extreme.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

They wanted the Jews to be restricted and living under their thumb as their overlords.

Funny thing is it ended up the other way around.

originally posted by: nemonimity
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

That's a highly skewed look at it. When Britain came in and decided the land should be given to someone else, specifically people not from the region of course the natives are not going to want a 2 state solution. That's just absolutely asinine.

It was the Jewish land as much as it was Palestinians. They were equally "native" .. as in both lived there and neither had any claim to the land. The Jews had the better claim of the two, as at least they had a kingdom there at some point in history.

Who in their right minds would be ok with that? So many who support israel get butt hurt about Mexicans immigrating to america, shouldn't it be ok for them to come and set up Aztelan in the american southwest? It was all mexico less time ago than Davids Israel existed. But no because the truth is it's all do to race.

Mexicans have their Mexico, so the analogy is pretty awful. No one I know of would be upset with Mexicans going to Mexico, much like I am not upset with Israelis going to Israel. There should be a Mexico, and there should be an Israel. Your analogy agrees there should be an Israel, and that is where Israelis should live. Thanks for agreeing.

The logical fallacies believed by people who support the judeo-christian reich are utterly insane.
You think Britain would have went out on a limb if all the Jewish people that were being immigrated were sephardic or arab? Hell no, they did it because they were white jewish people, it's just another case of white imperialism using whatever ham fisted excuses they can to supplant a native population and to expand the holy empires.

You know nothing about history. The Arabs used terror to get the British to NOT do it. The British did NOT support a 2 state solution. Your claims have no bearing in reality, maybe you should read up on the White Papers. They clearly stated that they went back on their word and no longer supported a Jewish nation in an attempt to pacify the terrorist Arabs.

No one wants to be ruled by foreign conquerors. The very idea that a population is unreasonable because they don't want their livelyhoods and homeland occupied is such a backasswards neo-liber-con sentiment it hurts my brain. Where the heck did people learn critical thinking skills?

Which is EXACTLY what the Arabs wanted to do to the Jews. Thank you for pointing out how wrong they were. All the Jews wanted was to rule themselves, and no one else. Palestinians said NOPE, you will be under our rule and we will conquer you if you don't accept it, and then rule over you anyways.

My Fiances family never left Poland for that very reason, they may be jewish but they were poles, Palestine wasn't theirs and they weren't going to be threatened by a bunch of douchebags that refused to see their contribution and dedication to their homeland.

Great. No one is arguing they should leave. They should have a choice, something you want to remove.

The fact that so many of the people conflate being jewish and being Israeli is not only disrespectful but bigoted in the extreme.

No one here is, that's a creation of your small mind.

originally posted by: sosobad
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

They wanted the Jews to be restricted and living under their thumb as their overlords.

Funny thing is it ended up the other way around.

Yes, the warmongers got their just desserts. The only shame is that the Jewish people who wanted peace were denied for almost 100 years, as the Palestinians have wanted war and terrorism.

a reply to: Awen24

but because the LAST people Israel would collude with are Islamic militants

Not the case..

Israel Bombs Syria For Fifth Time in 18 Months, Gives Arms, Medical Aid to Militants

21stcenturywire.com...

a reply to: purplemer

Rebels yes, ISIS no. This post is a HOAX.

ETA: Your source is terrible, I have never heard of that site before and it appears possibly less reputable than RT. Clear agenda and bias leading to outright lies.

ETA2: I looked into it more and it's inspired by Infowars and supported by BeforeItsNews. Seriously, you should never post anything from that junk site again.

a reply to: buster2010

Looks like you have run from another thread after the truth was posted.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Its not just reported in one place. Its reported in many.

purp..

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I will kindly disagree...Isis is a hoax....it is a created hoax ....between Saudi Arabia,USA,SOR(state of Rothschild's)....they are there for one purpose...to divide Islamic nations....Isis is a paid mercenary army...they are a absolutely paid for propaganda army to divide nations for the always planned SOR expansionist dreams.

Welcome to your new totalitarian world

a reply to: purplemer

I don't care if it's reported in 1 million places, it's a HOAX if no such UN report exists. No such UN report exists.

If you disagree then link to me the report specifically mentioning Israeli aid to ISIS.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Quit living in your little world of denial, you are clearly working an agenda here.

There is, for a fact, an actual UN report stating the numerous instances of Israel providing material aid to "al-Nusra" and other Syrian rebels, among whom are ISIS members - in fact, some of these Syrian rebels are the nastiest customers out there, Al-Qeada, Al-Nusra, ISIS/ISIL, etc....

Go here:

United Nations Documents on UNDOF
www.un.org...

Click on any of the recent reports, this has been going on for over a year.

Israel Supports Syrian Al Qaeda Rebels including the Islamic State (ISIS). UN Report

A report submitted to the United Nations Security Council by UN observers in the Golan Heights over the past 18 months shows that Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) have been in regular contact with Syrian rebels, including Islamic State (ISIS) militants.

Citing the UN report, Haaretz noted that there have been several instances detailed in the report that shows close ties between Syrian armed rebels and Israeli army.

According to the UN report, a person wounded on 15 September “was taken by armed members of the opposition across the ceasefire line, where he was transferred to a civilian ambulance escorted by an IDF vehicle.”

Moreover, from 9-19 November, the “UNDOF observed at least 10 wounded persons being transferred by armed members of the opposition from the Bravo side across the ceasefire line to IDF.”

As per the details released by the Israel’s health ministry, so far some 1,000 Syrians have been treated in four Israeli hospitals. Besides the civilians, some are members of the secular Free Syrian Army rebel group.

Israel initially had maintained that it was treating only civilians. However, reports claimed that earlier last month members of Israel’s Druze minority protested the hospitalisation of wounded Syrian fighters from the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front in Israel.

UN reveals Israeli links with Syrian rebels

Reports by UN observers in the Golan submitted to 15 members of Security Council detail regular contact between IDF officers and armed Syrian opposition figures at the border.

Exclusive: Israel Is Tending to Wounded Syrian Rebels

In the past three months, battle-hardened Syrian rebels have transported scores of wounded Syrians across a cease-fire line that has separated Israel from Syria since 1974, according to a 15-page report by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the work of the U.N. Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF). Once in Israel, they receive medical treatment in a field clinic before being sent back to Syria, where, presumably, some will return to carry on the fight.

Here is the specific UN report that is being cited in most of the articles previously linked:

Report of the Secretary-General on the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force for the period from12 September to 3 December 2013

From: un.org

“UNDOF observed at least 10 wounded persons being transferred by armed members of the opposition from the Bravo side across the ceasefire line to IDF.”

September 15, a wounded individual “was taken by armed members of the opposition across the ceasefire line, where he was transferred to a civilian ambulance escorted by an IDF vehicle.”

This is not exactly a secret, as apparently the Druze (a minority sect in Israel) have been protesting the hospitalization of 'radical Sunni factions such as the Islamic State (ISIS)'

From this report:

On one occasion UNDOF observed IDF on the Alpha side handing over two boxes to armed members of the opposition on the Bravo side. (Alpha side = Israel, Bravo side = Syria, "armed members of the opposition" = Rebels)

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer

Quit living in your little world of denial, you are clearly working an agenda here.

There is, for a fact, an actual UN report stating the numerous instances of Israel providing material aid to "al-Nusra" and other Syrian rebels, among whom are ISIS members - in fact, some of these Syrian rebels are the nastiest customers out there, Al-Qeada, Al-Nusra, ISIS/ISIL, etc....

I live in the world of fact. A report about Israel giving aid to rebels exists. Nowhere is ISIS named. I would love for you to show me in the report where Israel is giving aid to ISIS.

The agenda is yours. The denial is yours. I keep asking for something simple, show me a report where Israel is giving aid to ISIS, not Syrian rebels, but ISIS. I will wait for your source or quote.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

If you disagree then link to me the report specifically mentioning Israeli aid to ISIS.

You can bring a horse to water you cannot make it drink..

Google it and make your own mind up. Why do you think Isreal was bombing targets in Sryia last year. Read some different reports from around the world and make you own mind up.

purp..

Regular contact between Israel and Syrian rebels: UN report

A statement issued by a group of Druze activists involved in humanitarian aid to their brethren in Syria accused the Israeli government of supporting radical Sunni factions fighting against the Syrian government – by enabling them to get medical care.

"As we warned in the past, today it has become a fact that Israel supports all factions fighting the Syrian regime, and supplies them with weapons, and takes in the wounded of all faction, including Jabhat al-Nusra and Daesh," according to the statement issued by the group. "We call on members of the Druze sect to act severely toward Israel's policy."

The small Druze community in Israel, like the Druze in neighboring Syria and Lebanon, by and large support the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, favoring him over the Islamist rebels seeking to topple him.

Asked whether Israel does, in fact, hospitalize members of al-Nusra and Daesh (the Arabic acronym for the Islamic State organization), the military spokesman's office said: "In the past two years the Israel Defense Forces have been engaged in humanitarian, life-saving aid to wounded Syrians, irrespective of their identity."

Syria’s ambassador to the UN has also accused Israel of allowing cooperating with opposition fighters. Mr Bashar Ja’afari told Press TV that the militants have an “undeclared alliance with Israel and are engaged in a secret agreement” with the regime.

originally posted by: buster2010
Here is a link to UNDOF reports. United Nations Documents on UNDOF The last two reports for 2014 talks about Israels interaction with the Syrian rebels. Facts are that many of the people that make up ISIS came from the Syrian rebels.

"Many of the people that make up ISIS came from the Syrian rebels?" Exactly what percentage, please? And what percentage of the rebels went on to become ISIS? Is this a large enough figure to generalize that any support for the rebels is support for ISIS? As usual, the moment the word "Israel" comes up your critical thinking abilities crash. Please try to view the situation in that part of the world with the same intelligence you show in other matters.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Even when Israel provides humanitarian aid to Arabs it results in them being demonized!

“UNDOF sporadically observed armed members of the opposition interacting with IDF across the ceasefire line in the vicinity of United Nations position 85”

[October 27] "two unknown people entered Israel from the Syrian side of the border after two IDF soldiers had opened a gate, allowing them in. [snip] [IDF's] incursion into Syrian territory to set up tents for 60-70 families some 300 meters from the Israeli side.

[Haaretz] ...Damascus had sent a letter of complaint to UNDOF, claiming that the camp was a“base” for “armed terrorists,”and would be seen as a legitimate target for military engagement unless demolished by Israel.

[June 10, 2014] [snip] UN observers witnessed IDF soldiers handing two boxes with unknown contents to Syrian rebels on the Syrian side of the border.

links above. Under the cover of humanitarian aid, Israel supplies the rebel factions in Syria. These rebels include al-Nusra and ISIS. The IDF has been observed by UNDOF bringing in 'armed members of the opposition,' treating them and sending them back.

I dont understand how people can support the imposition of the State of Israel on the region. It was just wrong in everyway.