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Homeland Security Warns of Terrorist Threat from Right-Wingers

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posted on Feb, 21 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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This $hit is infuriating.

They're beheading people overseas, but right wingers in America are MORE of a threat?! Oh my GOD can you just off yourself already, Mr. President?!

Well, Overpasses has a big nationwide protest coming up in about a month. I plan to be at my state's capitol with a sign and a mask, and I'll be waiting for somebody to call me a terrorist. Maybe this little declaration of domestic security threats is directed at us -- the ones here at home planning huge protests and making waves in society.

We'll see what happens.




posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 02:37 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I think you missed the point. There are a whole lot of right leaning groups in the US that routinely threaten to dismantle the government. When a group arms themselves, threatens to topple your government, and is in a geographic location to do so it's wise to take the threat seriously.

In Fergueson I'm pretty sure they were trying to make things actively become worse. The feds wanted an excuse to step in. When you have a group like DHS that is focused on finding enemies among the people it shouldn't surprise you when they start trying to provoke people into action so that they can justify their jobs.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
So what exactly do you call it when the government calls it's citizens the enemy? I haven't heard an administration so insane. Hey...Obama! Why don't you say what you really mean..."if you didn't vote for me, or don't agree with me...you are the enemy and I will use the full force of the IRS, etc. to destroy you". NOW is it time to impeach this dork?


What are you going to impeach him over? Can you prove to a proper legal standard that he has done something illegal?


originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
This $hit is infuriating.

They're beheading people overseas, but right wingers in America are MORE of a threat?! Oh my GOD can you just off yourself already, Mr. President?!

Well, Overpasses has a big nationwide protest coming up in about a month. I plan to be at my state's capitol with a sign and a mask, and I'll be waiting for somebody to call me a terrorist. Maybe this little declaration of domestic security threats is directed at us -- the ones here at home planning huge protests and making waves in society.

We'll see what happens.


So we've established that ISIS are bad people. They murder innocents, burn people alive, sell women as sex slaves, harvest organs from the population, imprison women to farm them as blood donors, and probably more.

This is going to sound callous but explain to me how any of that is a threat to the US. ISIS is in the Middle East, they can't do anything to us unless they're actually on US soil. Even if they get onto US soil, what can they do to our country (which legally is defined as the structure of government rather than the people or the landmass)? Maybe they can cause another 9/11 and kill a bunch of people. Does that actually pave the way to toppling our government? The only way they can do that is if they can logistically move an army here and have it take control of an area. The military can easily prevent that from happening.

Thats the fundamental weakness of guerrilla tactics. They're cost effective and give you enormous freedom of movement, but they require one to operate in the shadows. Doing things overtly means you have to go up against an organized military.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 03:54 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
So what exactly do you call it when the government calls it's citizens the enemy? I haven't heard an administration so insane. Hey...Obama! Why don't you say what you really mean..."if you didn't vote for me, or don't agree with me...you are the enemy and I will use the full force of the IRS, etc. to destroy you". NOW is it time to impeach this dork?


What are you going to impeach him over? Can you prove to a proper legal standard that he has done something illegal?


originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX
This $hit is infuriating.

They're beheading people overseas, but right wingers in America are MORE of a threat?! Oh my GOD can you just off yourself already, Mr. President?!

Well, Overpasses has a big nationwide protest coming up in about a month. I plan to be at my state's capitol with a sign and a mask, and I'll be waiting for somebody to call me a terrorist. Maybe this little declaration of domestic security threats is directed at us -- the ones here at home planning huge protests and making waves in society.

We'll see what happens.


So we've established that ISIS are bad people. They murder innocents, burn people alive, sell women as sex slaves, harvest organs from the population, imprison women to farm them as blood donors, and probably more.

This is going to sound callous but explain to me how any of that is a threat to the US. ISIS is in the Middle East, they can't do anything to us unless they're actually on US soil. Even if they get onto US soil, what can they do to our country (which legally is defined as the structure of government rather than the people or the landmass)? Maybe they can cause another 9/11 and kill a bunch of people. Does that actually pave the way to toppling our government? The only way they can do that is if they can logistically move an army here and have it take control of an area. The military can easily prevent that from happening.

Thats the fundamental weakness of guerrilla tactics. They're cost effective and give you enormous freedom of movement, but they require one to operate in the shadows. Doing things overtly means you have to go up against an organized military.

I'll briefly explain what I believe you already know. Islam and radical Islam is a religion and an idea. Every Muslim is supposed to follow the word of their God and ISIS is standing up to tell all of them what they need to do. You have people from every country going and joining ISIS. Who is to say that some of those same people, who went from country A to ISIS decide not to go...but to stay and carry out their war here at home? That is the fear. That terrorism IS here already and we are just waiting for the explosion. Like France discovered. We know there are radical Islamists here in the USA...and we are waiting to see how much death they cause.

So yes...it is a good idea to destroy this "movement".
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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 04:25 AM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I didn't say it wasn't a good idea. The world would be a better place with them gone. Now that we've moved past that... what threat to us are they? At best they can kill a few thousand people inside our borders, and that's being generous.

How many thousands of our soldiers should die to stop that from happening?

How much money should we commit to preventing those deaths opposed to other deaths?

How much of our nations limited ability to project force should we commit to that region opposed to other regions?

Going back into the middle east will mean making major concessions to China in the Pacific. It will mean making concessions to Russia along their border. It will mean making more concessions to China in Africa.

I would argue that until ISIS becomes an actual threat, we should leave the fighting of them to those in that region. We can support those nations like we're currently doing in Iraq with training but it's a bad idea for us to take direct action even if the world would be better off with ISIS gone.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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Related to either this piece of news or the latest Mall of America targetting?

Minneapolis officer wounded in apparent targeted attack



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

I liked this post, and it reminded me of all the insightful and intelligent posts I've read from you over the years, so I thought I'd start into this thread by saying thanks for that.

Yeah it's like the colors change, but it's the same players, and the same games, maybe different rhetoric depending on who's in charge at the time...

What doesn't seem to change is the erosion of constitutional government as envisioned by its creators, that seems to remain a steady trend. I agree with your earlier post that we saw much of this same political game being played out in the nineties. Anyone who is touting the Patriot Act as a strictly right-wing agenda should take another look. Plenty of "anti-terror" legislation was passed in the nineties, pushing most of the draconian measures contained in the Patriot Act. Warrantless search and seizure, and extended detention were a couple that spring to mind. All you had to do was say the magic word. Anyone know what the magic word is? I'll give you a hint. It starts with a T.

That pesky cartel of international bankers consolidating power, undermining the American way of life in the process, seems to have remained a steady trend as well. Too bad for us yanks that we keep funding them so generously...hold on, I've got to put on my ten dollar -snipsnip- slippers...there, that's better...

I guess I've got to be that guy here, so...left or right, these globalists we keep allowing to run our country basically follow the same agenda in terms of removing individual freedom and consolidation and centralization of power. This is the globalist agenda playing out, slowly but surely. Those of you who think I'm some kind of nut for saying this should take a good look at history. This is not some crack smoker's pipe dream, but a long running conspiracy by a group of powerful, well organized people. The one world government they are working to achieve is not a warm fuzzy take down all the borders thing. Though these claims may seem wild to some of you they have a firm basis in historical fact. Though not widely publicized, most of this knowledge is not even really secret.

Do they eat babies during satanic rituals or some such? Maybe, I dunno. FEMA camps? Maybe, but that's really beside the point that all we need to do about it as Americans is nothing, and the totalitarian state will surely arrive, FEMA camps or no. We're pretty much there, practically speaking. Uncle Sam just hasn't dropped the hammer yet. Of course the people haven't given Uncle Sam the excuse to...

Americans are still a free, armed people, however. This will give any would be tyrant pause. Oh sure, they can drone the crap out of us(and who knows what else), but an armed populace will not be so easily subjugated as an unarmed one. Any group of people with aims of world domination in mind would have to contend with this X factor of the American people. THE PEOPLE ARE THE MILITIA, or at least that's what the second amendment to the US Constitution says. Don't you forget it people! We are ALL "necessary to the security of a free state". Don't you folks get so caught up in your illusionary left-right argument that you forget this.
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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: XxNightAngelusxX


Oh my GOD can you just off yourself already, Mr. President?!

I plan to be at my state's capitol with a sign and a mask, and I'll be waiting for somebody to call me a terrorist.

We'll see what happens.


If some random scary looking Muslim guy said this stuff. What would you call him?



I do not agree with the government. However, if you are the entrenched federal government. Who would you be more scared of, and think is more dangerous. A group of people killing and rampaging in a far away land. Who can not attack you directly. Who can not do anymore damage than your own criminal elements. Natural born criminals will kill more in a year, than any foreign based terror group could. Or homegrown groups who can gather support within the country and actually threaten the federal government. The terrorists can never win in this country. Only in the countries they were spawned in.

I mean lets be honest. If a progressive left wing type candidate wins the next election, after eight years of that type of president, in Obama. I can easily see many right leaning groups and lone wolf types ramping-up their rhetoric and actions to terroristic levels. The same thing could of easily happened after Bush. If another neocon type right wing president was elected after eight years of that type of president, in Bush. Left leaning groups and lone wolf types could of ramped up their rhetoric and actions to terroristic levels.

Its not out of the realm of possibility. Which is why the powers that be allow the illusion of a two party system. They can do what they want and allow the citizens to think things will change when their team wins. You let one party rule for years. Let the opposition get foaming at the mouth angry so they can be led where you want. Then switch and repeat as needed. When your scared and angry. You are easily manipulated.

To an entrenched government. Homegrown terrorism is always more dangerous than foreign based terrorism. Especially for a country as big as the United States of America. As much as people quack in their boots. Living in a constant state of fear. From the evil Muslims out to chop off your head and bring Sharia law to this country. That viewpoint is the viewpoint the government wants its vassals and slaves to have. So they can go to war and pass whatever laws they want, and lead you by the nose to whatever choice they have made for you. From the actual viewpoint of the "masters", groups like isil and al qaeda are just annoyances to the federal government and not threats.


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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: xuenchenCan anyone who denies evolution (while they probably own a dog lol), climate change, thinks the American president is a foreign Mooslim secretly infiltrating gov., with a cache of guns be trusted?



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: LOSTinAMERICA

We are on it.
THAT'S why these assinine statements are calling people terrorists, apparently they don't think we are allowed to do so.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 02:09 PM
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a reply to: engineercutout

NOT to mention the BEST triggermen have been badly used and abused,and we FAR ounumber any force on the planet.
Our skills would show rather quickly as well.
Tanks won't survive downtown very long.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

This is dumb.
The people attacking police arwnt related to militias. There is no imminent threat. When right wing militia guys chatter its likely a constant stream of the same thing. My guess is when islamic extremists start to chatter the xonversations reach across vast distances and are more precise. I bet 100 bucks no militia right winger attack is ever directed by an organization of any kind nor would they be funded by anyone except the perp.

I think most the attacks on police have been non affiliated thugs. The only miltia type to have done anything was Frein and he wasnt directed by anyone, he just lost the plot.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

originally posted by: Semicollegiate
a reply to: Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


and in their blowing up of the Murray building, the handed Reno all the ammo she needed to go after anyone even remote associated with them.


Before the Murrah OKC event, every talk radio personality was discussing the Constitution and the Federal Budget. After the OKC event, the Republicans threw away the best chance at a rollback of governmental power.

When the Constitution and Federal Reserve came around talk show topics again, because of the dot-com bubble, 911 happens.

The centralized collectivist government sure is lucky that way.



Ahhhhh, you appear to get it. Few do. In the end, there really is no fundamental difference between the left and the right. The only way they differ is in their methods and targets of hatred, favorite scapegoats, and which areas of your life and finances they should be able to intrude into. Tides and threats shift depending on what ideology is currently the dominant one.

During the Bush years, you had a few Democrats and far left-wingers in powerful places who said and endorsed things and acts that could be reasonably considered treason against Dubya and Associates. Now during the Obama years, I see Republican and Right wingers in high places pretty much doing the same. Same chess board, same players, just the color sides switched. And during the Bush years, you had quite a number of far-left raving moonbats making ridiculous, face-palm worthy rants and serious threats against Bush. Back then, you had people on here hysterically ranting about Bush being the anti-Christ, the most evil, responsible for every horrible fail in American society. Now the ridiculous, hysterical rants and threats come from the right.

When one actually looks at objective reality, one can see that many of the current threats and pressing issues were problems that developed well the general public even ever heard of Barrack Obama, and several still have their roots before Bush Jr. even announced his plans to run for president. The most festering predate even Clinton.

Obama has been a lame duck, ineffective, unfocused, and inconsistent as a president, that's for sure. His administration so far, for the most part, has been lackluster. But lackluster is a far cry from the rabid, laughable claims of him being a mad dictator, an evil closet Muslim-socialist-Satanist hellbent on destroying America that I hear spouted from every far right wingnut I encounter. It gets so annoying, because any attempt to correct their oft repeated factual inadequacies and untruths is bound to get you labeled pinko liberal or whatever.

My own personal observations and experiences were that things actually began to start getting worse around '99, when Clinton was in office, but the overall state of the country really started taking a full turn south under Bush, especially post 9/11. And I mean, a total turn south. The Patriot Act. The creation of the DHS and blossoming expansion of the surveillance state in the name of the new "War on Terror". The half-baked, cooked-up and poorly thought out "liberation" of Iraq. The decline of the economy, the rise of unemployment and underemployment. More and more doors for government intrusion into our lives. And then the great crash (which to be fair, had its roots well before Bush, and both parties were complicit). So, Obama takes over. And...well......it doesn't look or feel any different than it did under Bush. Obama has not revoked, or even revised, much of the Patriot act. The surveillance state continues to grow unopposed, our lives get invaded uncontrollably. Criminal bankers get bailed out while people get evicted. The administration displays incompetence consistently. And when the nation is amidst crisis, the president is on vacation and no where to be found, and when the situation is finally handled, it is usually done with mind blowing levels of incompetence.

I mean, the Obama Admin is almost indistinguishable from the Bush Admin, all things considered.


I have not followed the Republican-Democrat right left activities since Nixon. Nixon was the "right-wing" establishment man who thought that national price controls were conservative, that is, individualistic.

Not only do both parties use the government to coerce their desired behavior, but all of the NGOs, NWO, bankers and oligarchs use the strong central government also, and they will always be closer to the government than the normal person.

Small government has no power to be stolen. Freedom needs Jeffersonian, or smaller, government.



I agree with exanguination45 (the RW threat is predictive programming) that the attention given to right wing terrorists is a preparation for later. TPTB could do a slow fade into totalitarianism, because they can print all of the money they need to keep enough of the unhappy people in the system. The people trying to drop out of the system, (violating the Agenda 21) will be associated with false flags, if they don't do anything illegal.
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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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Homeland Security is run by our "dual-citizens"---their only fear is Americans with guns.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 05:24 PM
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So let me see if I understand this correctly....

Last week right wingers (GOP) leveraged DHS funding against an unwanted immigration bill supporting amnesty, which wouldn't be needed if DHS actually did their job to protect our borders. This week DHS has identified right wingers as terrorists.

Makes sense.



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 05:26 PM
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There are a whole lot of right leaning groups in the US that routinely threaten to dismantle the government


Yeah, they bring assault rifles to town hall meetings and state capitals (my capital) wearing shirts that say the tree of liberty must be watered with blood and then cry because they get labelled terrorists? WTF?!



posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 05:45 PM
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originally posted by: CB328

Yeah, they bring assault rifles to town hall meetings and state capitals (my capital) wearing shirts that say the tree of liberty must be watered with blood and then cry because they get labelled terrorists? WTF?!



The real danger already exists inside the big high crime well organized well funded areas in the big Democrat voting cities.

Not many "Right Wingers" there is there.

Looks like the "Right Wing" militias are strictly defense.




posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 06:32 PM
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This dude here might be getting a visit from the Secret Service.

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posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: ~Lucidity

This dude here might be getting a visit from the Secret Service.


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Well the timing is perfect isn't it.





posted on Feb, 22 2015 @ 06:40 PM
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Not exactly. It's been this way since the pres took office.

DHS is in the news because the GOP is trying to scare people by saying they're going to shut it down. That might be more to your perfect timing.




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