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OK will do, my first experience with these #ers was at the age of five. My brother was visiting my G ma and it was hard to sleep we had bunk beds . So I'm laying there alone awake,reflecting,and I am over come with this itching feeling to look out my bedroom window(which is on the first floor in our back yard)
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Tangerine
I'm referring to my own personal experience, what more denotes life?
Nothing more. Tell us about it.
originally posted by: HillbillyHippie1
I have been researching and investigating the not-so-physical aspect of the UFO phenomena and other paranormal phenomena for about 10 years now. My interest truly began after an encounter my ex-fiancee and I had during a total lunar eclipse in the fall of 2004. Anywhere I post this story it is not taken seriously, but hopefully those here can at least remain open to it. It was real enough that I have been searching for answers for the past 10 years.
On a lark, my then fiancee and I decided to attempt to conjure/contact elves. We were dabbling pagans then, we are not now.
We gathered together some simple items and drove off into the State Forest. We set-up a ritual circle and did what we were supposed to do and called for the elves, asking them to come and join us. To both of our amazement "something" (many somethings) answered us and came and joined us. We never "saw" them, only heard them clear as daylight. It actually scared the crap out of both of us. I wrote a detailed description of the events and had my now "ex" do the same. There is more to the story, but for now I'll only state what I have.
Ever since that experience I have been interested in the elf and faerie phenomena, which only naturally led me to UFOs. I had never seen a UFO until last summer (again with a girlfriend). I am convinced there is a connection between these two phenomena, dimensions, and consciousness. I think all of the alternative theories for UFOs have something to bring to the table, but no one has quite got it figured out.
I think we are dealing with otherworldly non-physical (at least according to our understanding) beings here. The elementals of old, perhaps? In a panpsychic world, all things would have some level of consciousness - I think this is where my research is landing me.
And just to add some food for thought... Angels, elves, djinn, faeries, and even gods have all had serious associations with trees. Even UFOs tend to be described sometimes gliding across treetops and making them move, etc. The plant kingdom and even fungi kingdom have been around for a really long time. If people claim they can astral project...Well, you get the point!
I think consciousness is a lot larger of a thing than anyone is prepared to accept. If everything which exists must necessarily also contain consciousness, then the universe could be a very strange and interesting place indeed.
You cannot, through logic, conclude that "something can come from nothing." So what about consciousness? What if "I think therefore I am" does not create a duality problem but spells out the necessity for both to exist in order for anything to exist, right there in plain text?
originally posted by: entermemo
I am firmly in the interdimensional alien camp. I don't think these are nuts and bolts craft coming from a planet far away. The book that sealed the deal for me was Rick Strassman's '___' The Spirit Molecule and his subject's reports. It is just too much coincidence. Vallee, Jung, Terence McKenna, they have to be on the right track as opposed to those more traditional theorists.
I think the phenomena has always been happening and our culture provides the lens through which we experience and describe it. Fairies = Aliens = '___' self transforming machine elves.
P.S. This thread has the best collection of avatars.
originally posted by: Specimen
a reply to: Tangerine
Would be nice if you would offer a little more meat to the thread, instead of just bread about the subject. I understand the context and where the thread wants to go about Ufos being non-terrestrial, trying to understand there very nature, and its ok if you want to keep some notes to yourself and all. I mean, magicians never reveal there secrets right, I mean that's what usually get associated with very ghostly group of Jack O lanterns, or some silvery, singular white version of Satan, or a dark Baphomet for that matter, hell he was pretty popular a few years ago.
I see this, and I saw that.
Buts that all folklore and gossip really.
You could try looking into inter/extra dimensionals, what ever the real difference between the two is, but the main problem with that is that were not sure as to how space and time works, dimensions and quantum entanglement too.
As for a control system, well wouldn't time it self be just that?
originally posted by: JimTSpock
What about UFOs with photos, videos, radar tracks. Some appear to be physical objects which emit visible light and cause radar and visible light to bounce off them. UFOs as some kind of human psychic projection? Then why doesn't Godzilla appear in Japan. There could be various types, some the traditional physical objects and some something else like suggested in the thread. And advanced technology could enable capabilities such as invisibility in the human visible spectrum, enabling some to disappear.
Humans have observed strange lights in the sky for a very long time, not just after 1947, they just didn't use the term UFO.
I have an offer from a major celebrity in this field to
endorse 'my book' if I write it
UFOs as some kind of human psychic projection? Then why doesn't Godzilla appear in Japan.
originally posted by: JimTSpock
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
My point was if UFOs are some kind of human psychic projection then why doesn't something else appear like Godzilla? And you are correct Godzilla so far has failed to materialize and kill Japan lol.
IF in fact some UFOs are ET craft with advanced technology and capability which we don't understand, then this is about what I would expect. Like a monkey or caveman trying to catch a jet fighter. No chance. We can't catch a suspect UFO and bring it to the lab for examination, we don't have the means to. Maybe it's difficult because it's the only area where we are not the most intelligent technologically advanced beings, they are. Like monkeys don't capture us and study us, we capture them and do experiments on them and have all the control of the situation.
My point was if UFOs are some kind of human psychic projection then why doesn't something else appear like Godzilla?
IF in fact some UFOs are ET craft with advanced technology and capability which we don't understand, then this is about what I would expect.
But being a vulgar mechanist myself, I have always been drawn to the idea that myths and the archetypes that form them are a projection of our evolved instincts in action.
'Mythology rules at a level of our social reality over which normal political and intellectual action has no power.' — Jaques Vallée