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The researchers found nearly 23,000 mutations in lung cancer cells, suggesting that for each packet of cigarettes, a typical smoker acquires one mutation in his or her DNA.
Interesting, interesting. So you're saying that, regardless of how foolish your own actions are, someone else should be looking out for your well-being? You're saying that, even though you have chosen to exercise a self-destructive habit in an environment that can kill you, it's someone else's responsibility to make sure you don't die? Seems like you are asking for a nanny state, there.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
I am sorry but you are wrong - just plain wrong. I am a human being. I need protection from the weather regardless of what I am doing.
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: blupblup
Oh come on.... FFS.
Whatever small benefit there *may* be is utterly negligible.
You are breathing hot, poisonous chemicals into your lungs.
That is not good. ever.
I'm afraid I must disagree; that inhale is absolutely delectable
Everybody dies, I choose lung cancer.
Do you need to smoke for some reason?
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
DID YOU NOT READ THE PART ABOUT SMOKING SHELTERS
Are you preverse??? Do you need to enter a smoking shelter for some reason?
Now just exactly how do they protect toll booth operators from toxic emissions of automobiles that would normally kill them within a half hour - ventilation?
Just exactly how they protect miners who would not survive exposure to toxic underground gases - ventilation?
Are you suggesting that second-hand smoke is so incredibly toxic that it is more dangerous than carbon monoxide, hydrogen sulphide, methane, sarin and ricin?
Again, for who-knows-how-many times, none of your analogies hold up, because SMOKING IS A PASTIME. It is not necessary, it isn't a job, it isn't a byproduct of technology, it is something you do to calm your nerves that is NOT a requirement of life. Therefore, no, smoking doesn't get the same considerations the other things you listed do. You don't have to do it, and the rest of us have every right to ask you not to do it around us.
But somehow - in your head - second hand smoke is SO deadly that no employee may be allowed to be exposed REGARDLESS of ventilation and smokers must freeze to death because perverse individuals like yourself demand to enter smoking shelters and private property and expect not to be exposed to second hand smoke.
Oh right! So you don't have to go into a place that doesn't allow smoking, do you? See how that works! Everyone's happy!
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
YES!
I am certainly willing to go to a hospitality venue and pay for a meal or a drink. The money can then be used by the private hospitality venue to pay his employers to work in an area where smokers are socializing. Its called job!
YOU don't have to enter into any privately owned hospitality venue that allows smoking, now do you? And the employees are not required to work there!
And you know what? - OSHA has set standards for smoke in an enclosed setting and therefore proper ventilation can be installed to protect the employees and they don't have to work there either.
Tired of Control Freaks
I don't know about, or care about, smoking shelters, beyond possibly being annoyed if my tax dollars were paying for them.
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks
And again I ask - are you perverse?
What reason do you have to want to enter a smoking shelter and why are separate outdoor smoking shelters only allowed by law to have a roof and two walls!
Tired of Control Freask
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
Cotinine was also helpful in some models that predict antipsychotic behavior, called prepulse inhibition. Patients with Alzheimer's as well as psychiatric conditions such as schizophrenia may have trouble controlling themselves on many different levels. "One of the things that gets people put in a nursing home very commonly is psychiatric outbursts," Terry said. "As your brain degenerates, Alzheimer's is not just a disease of cognition. Some patients hallucinate, some have delusions, as well as aggressive behavior sometimes," Terry said.
So when cities started outlawing smoking inside all places of business, did smokers just stop leaving their houses? Or did they just stop smoking inside bars/restaurants/etc?
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
The owners of private hospitality venues are not happy to have lost their smoking customers.
originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: peck420
I know that you have been reading about how toxic nicotene is. The fact is that the toxicity of nicotene is based on a guess done by a couple of pharmacists more than 200 years ago.
There is updated data on that issue now...
Tired of Control Freaks
Really? Do you know you can make a very effective and deadly poison with nothing more than tobacco and water? You couldn't do that unless it was incredibly poisonous i would imagine.
Also worth noting that it's mutations on your body that cause Cancer and every 15 cigarettes you smoke will cause a mutation. Still as long as i'm not having to inhale your second hand smoke it's not a problem.
You mean you don't need a government-sponsored shelter project to continue to live? Personal responsibility, what a concept.
originally posted by: peck420
I have zero issues going outside to smoke.
Even in the coldest that Canada's winters have to offer.
They make these unbelievable products for doing it...winter clothing.
So much better than a shelter...that clothing goes with me wherever I have to go.