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originally posted by: JIMC5499
I find it funny that the same people who would lynch someone for smoking tobacco have no problem with somebody smoking pot.
So you're going to tell me you don't just hand the Darwin award to someone who needs a cigarette so badly, he'd risk freezing to death? If our distinguished OP is so "tired of control freaks" as he always claims, why is he not tired of a substance that causes someone to override the survival instinct?
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
Your empathy is nearly tear-jerking.
Maybe I'd have felt empathy if I'd been presented the story in a different light. As it is, the OP brings it here to try and lay the guilt on the evil, evil people that don't want smoke blown in their faces indoors. If anything, I'm not empathetic for TiredOfControlFreaks, because he presents himself like Fred Flintstone in a 1950s cigarette commercial.
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
Just noting that the attitude is incompatible with any claims to paternalistic shepherding.
We need protection from the weather and we need places to socialize.
Yes, I'm sure joggers purposely jog behind tractor-trailers because they think it's an integral part of the jogging experience. I'm sure they choose to inhale pollutants in a city because it makes them mellow, cures Alzheimer's, and puts hair on their chest. And I'm sure, on the flip side of that, that smoking is an unavoidable process of the technological world that we live in. Smokers have to smoke so that we can transport goods and people across the nation.
originally posted by: greencmp
There are even people who want to ban smoking outdoors. Ironically, these are frequently the people whom you see jogging behind a diesel 18 wheeler.
Guess what is an even MORE efficient solution than smoke eaters and ventilation?
originally posted by: greencmp
You know, that is a valid concern but, in Boston anyway, they had just forced everybody to install smoke eaters before they banned smoking. In truth, proper ventilation solves the problem better than smoke eaters and also wisps away farts and myriad other air pollutants.
I clarified the post you're quoting. But of course that's what you'd think.
originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: AshOnMyTomatoes
Let me guess, putting every smoker in a concentration camp?
originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: peck420
I know that you have been reading about how toxic nicotene is. The fact is that the toxicity of nicotene is based on a guess done by a couple of pharmacists more than 200 years ago.
There is updated data on that issue now...
Tired of Control Freaks
Instead more than 80 per cent of those questioned, excluding ‘don’t knows’, believe it should be down to individuals to make their own lifestyle choices without official interference from Government. Supporters of Ukip were most likely to resent Whitehall meddling in their daily lives, the pollsters found. Mark Littlewood, director general of free market think-tank the Institute of Economic Affairs, which commissioned the ComRes survey, said: “These results should be a wake-up call to politicians across the spectrum. “It is clear that the majority of the British public think the nanny state has gone too far and want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit. “Interestingly, Ukip voters clearly favour personal freedoms and lower sin taxes to the greatest extent, which should provide food for thought for the traditional Westminster parties. This is a clear sign that the Government needs to row back on its constant interventions into people’s lives.”