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So, you think this radical Islamic problem is new?

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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 04:46 AM
A lot of folk are either ignoring the problem of Radical Islam's agressive expansion at the moment, or they are simply so caught up in the PC trap that Globalist Company Inc (The UN) has us believing in that they do not realise Islam has been a worry for a long time.

While searching for something completely unrelated, I stumbed upon a trove of old newspaper articles spanning from the late 1800s to about 1945 from New Zealand newspapers. The fascinating thing about these articles is that while NZ was a british colony firmly aligned with the crown back then, it was also far removed from the troubles of the old world and news that travelled that far had to be a fairly big story.

Here is a computer translated version of one such article from the Evening Post, Mar 8 1928

ITS DANGERS TO EUROPE -NEED FOR SOLIDARITY (United Press Association.—Copyright.) (Received Bth March, 2 p.m.) PARIS, 7th March. The "Gaulois" says: "He is blind who does not see tho closo relationship between tho movements against tho British to-day and against Europe to-morrow now shaking Islam. Illusions in that 'regard are dangerous. Sooner or later tho solidarity which ought to exist among the Great Powers interested in Islam will become necessary as a common safeguard, if the reawakening of Islam is not to develop into a revolt the consequences of which would be incalculable."

The original version of the artical can be viewed here They were not afraid to speak the truth back then and their dire warning is playing out in 2015.

Here is another from Mar 4 1913, from the Wanganui Chronicle

A pamphlet which is being extensively circulated alleges that Christianity as combining against Islam, and advocates retaliation on all Christians.

Original here Islam has been calling for retaliation against Christianity for a long time too.

Many blame USA and britian for Anti Western sentiment from Islam, but Germany has had it's fair share of meddling too

FEARS THAT ISLAM IS IN DANGER. (Received 9.35 a.m.) LONDON, Jime 25. Among the causes of the Arab revolt were Enver Pasha's severity in executing several chiefs during a recent mysterious tour between Aleppo and Mecca, and also a widespread feeling that Islam is endangered by German ascendance through the Young Turks* free thinking camarilla.

Original here This trouble that is brewing in the middle east is nothing new, and the east vs west mentality is not new either. Interestingly, Islam has had a two faced love / hate relationship with Germany. During WW1 they announced the Kaiser as a protector of Islam, no doubt in the hopes the German empire would crush the Christian West they despised so much, even back then.

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 04:53 AM
a reply to: markosity1973

ISIS got started into big thing by giving Syrian Rebels almost a Billion dollars in money and weapons and telling them to topple Assad

When they couldn't

They spilled from Syria into Iraq and now seems US lost control

Everything else is propaganda and half truth
edit on 19-2-2015 by PizzaAnyday505 because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 04:56 AM
a reply to: PizzaAnyday505

While it's a travisty if true, the money would have been wasted if there was not the underlying hatred and desire to fuel the war in the first place.

A Billion dollars buys a lot of schools and hospitals for instance.......

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 05:06 AM
i wish we lived in a world where we could say that people are equal in every sense. that is not true.
One of our major differences is of course our belief systems, like it or not, they influence our actions in ways you might not even realize.
doesn't matter if you believe in conspiracies or not, if you are a martial arts trainer, a couch potato, a pc gamer or a console gamer, republican, democrat, it doesn't matter, your belief system will be evident in your actions.
and when it comes to religions, that are always an "all or nothing" sort of thing, it becomes even more evident.
People like to say religions are all the same, but that is not true. some are "better" than others.
Islam is clearly not one of the better ones.
In another post i pointed out, 2000 people have been killed by islamic extremists in the month of january alone.
Can you say that in one month priests raped 2000 children?
Can you say that in one month 2000 people have been killed in the name of jesus?
Can you say that in one month 2000 women were beaten because "they not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says" ?

I understand you cannot lump more than a billion people together and call them terrorists, but to say that there isn't a problem, is being willfully ignorant. Islam, in it's modern use IS a problem, and we need to stop it, by empowering moderate muslims or by enforcing very strict immigration policies.
Ask Sweden, they have seen a dramatic increase of rapes ever since they became a bit too open for their own good.
sweden rape study
live leak

Maybe it goes beyond religion, maybe it has to do more with culture.
And even then, you know what, they can stay home and keep living in their own culture they love so much, it makes no sense for them to ask US to adapt.
"Let me come over to your country and impose a set of beliefs that has made my home country a #hole to live in"
No thanks.

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 05:38 AM
No, this is been there always. But was confined to it's own country. Until somewhat recent events. When others tried to rule them from outside their countries. Dictate their policies. Overthrow their leadership. They do not want to change. Any more than we would want them to change us. If others would just let them rule their own countries. As long as no genocide. Let them be. CIA and others have been going in and starting all these events. Ukraine included.

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:52 AM
The "west" or I think it is sometimes referred to as the

"new world" Has progressed due embracing technology and

equality of the sex's.

Women from the "east" are still subjugated, needing to either

fully or partially cover up. They are only just being able to fulfil

their potential due to education, but are still not able to take on

what was considered "men's work." Or even allowed to drive?

Immigrants from those eastern countries (not all but mostly) The

mother doesn't go into the work force, and in a lot of instances

wont speak or even learn the language of the country they have

come to.

They do not want progress the men like the status quo of

being in charge as their religion and culture demand. It will take

for them to have a female 'Iman' before their mind set gets out

of the middle ages.

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 07:38 AM
a reply to: roth1

No, it has not always been confined to its own country. It believes it has a sacred duty to spread itself to everyone. In that, it's no different than any other religion. Where it parts company with them is that it believes it has license to do so by any means necessary and it often chooses violence as its preferred means because that's the example of Mohammad from earliest times - spreading Islam by the sword.

If they kept their beliefs confined like Amish do, then you're right. It wouldn't be a problem

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 08:25 AM
Islam is not radical only when a strong government forces it not to be radical. For example:

According to UNICEF, Turkey has one of the highest rates of child marriage in Europe, but the figures vary depending on the amount of data available and the region surveyed. For example, according to a national study, the average national rate of child marriage is 28%, but this can reach as high as 41% in the Eastern and South Eastern regions[ii]. Child marriage is especially prevalent in many Eastern and rural areas, and some Roman communities, where boys are also likely to be married young[iii].

How do mothers raise their daughters just to sell them off to be sex slaves?

Islam is apparently the answer.

I debated this a little on GLP before and the 'best answer' I got was that the mothers were victims of society.

If you're going to use that defense to let people off the hook for crimes (because marrying off child brides is illegal in Turkey but the law's rarely enforced)...then the perpetrators of crimes can almost always be framed as victims.

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 08:26 AM

originally posted by: PizzaAnyday505
a reply to: markosity1973

ISIS got started into big thing by giving Syrian Rebels almost a Billion dollars in money and weapons and telling them to topple Assad

When they couldn't

They spilled from Syria into Iraq and now seems US lost control

Everything else is propaganda and half truth

Um, yea, it.

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 08:28 AM
And that hardly differs from the west. With result anyway. All for money, resources and political control. Or launch a covert opp to start a war. If not compliant.reply to: ketsuko

posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 09:08 AM
Civilized world has been dealing with radical Islam for damn near a thousand years. Pick up a history book.

Hell, the Crusades were an attempt to win back lands lost to Islam. Barbary Pirates ring a bell?

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