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Is ATS accusing it's members of being Russian shills?

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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:07 AM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: sosobad




Do you speak on behalf of ATS?


Do you?




Took you all this time to figure that out? You catch on quick.


It took me all of 2 seconds to figure out your obvious bias toward anyone who doesn't share your opinions, lol.


You are answering the questions like I asked you personally asking your take on it, hint I wasn't, then go on to answer for the staff, then go on to tell me to go elsewhere and when I wouldn't respond to your goading tell to go cry some more. Just because you do not have the mental fortitude to understand that other people might have a question about something you call the OP pointless. You must be a hit with people in real life.
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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: RustyHook
a reply to: Wookiep

He said this,



You really have done/added nothing to the thread but yet here you are 5 pages in still dribbling on nonsense. You don't like my question take your own advice and go elsewhere, plenty more threads on ATS where you can act the way you do.



Now why would he respond with that to the owner answering his question?


He didn't respond to the owner, that was his crazy response to me... Man, you seem really confused, I don't know what to tell ya!

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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

And you said "And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what I would expect the OP would say to any response given from a /MOD/Owner"...


So as Rusty said...

What makes you think he would respond to a Mod/Owner like that for answering the question?


You haven't answered the question...

The response to you was warranted!



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: sosobad




then go on to answer for the staff, then go on to tell me to go elsewhere and when I wouldn't respond to your goading tell to go cry some more. Just because you do not have the mental fortitude to understand that our "questionother people might have a question about something you call the OP pointless. You must be a hit with people in real life.


Wow man, you're all messed up. I never answered anything for "staff", only gave opinions on the matter which are likely to be the most realistic. Your "question" is an accusation against that "staff" you feel I have been answering for. I do hope someone from "staff" addresses you, cause now you are just trolling ME, which is stupid because I've only offered opinions on your pointless OP.

PS - People love me in real life lol, if you only knew... oh well, I'm glad you never will!



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Mind = blown.

Woah, you really got me there!



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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It seems that RT news online did a little bit on UFOs and used ATS as one of the sources ruffling a few bald eagle feathers from some of the owners here

Then if my memory serves me right someone from RT then created an account and was verbally insulted as the normal here and given the boot

Then one of the owners says Putin is a megalomaniac and the typical smears we see from others was mentioned

Next we have a meme contest with Putin from I believe the same owner

Pro western propaganda posters here who don't need to be paid as their indoctrinated beyond repair post western lies and privately message mods to delete comments that don't sit in with their web of deceit

This is normaly done as off topic,but they can go off topic in their own post and anyone commenting on this off topic post will get their post deleted

We all know the score,was like this when Afghanistan and Iraq was invaded with a fair few members who are now mods chanting the pro western garbage many knew was wrong and a pack of lies

So I guess the war in the Middle East is wrapped up and now the bad guy is Russia,it certainly would see that way with the western media doing the same tactics it did before

So could all these anti Russian posts be a direct result of the online RT running a story about aliens or does the site owners have satellite intel and sources that prove Russia has invaded Ukraine or a birth certificate for Putin showing Hitler as his blood relative:-/

Guess the UFO story holds more merit



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: Whereismypassword

Could you refrain from talking about what the owner may or may not have done...


It will can the thread and we won't have an answer to the OP question.



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:21 AM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: sosobad




then go on to answer for the staff, then go on to tell me to go elsewhere and when I wouldn't respond to your goading tell to go cry some more. Just because you do not have the mental fortitude to understand that our "questionother people might have a question about something you call the OP pointless. You must be a hit with people in real life.


Wow man, you're all messed up. I never answered anything for "staff", only gave opinions on the matter which are likely to be the most realistic. Your "question" is an accusation against that "staff" you feel I have been answering for. I do hope someone from "staff" addresses you, cause now you are just trolling ME, which is stupid because I've only offered opinions on your pointless OP.

PS - People love me in real life lol, if you only knew... oh well, I'm glad you never will!


Then you had your say, hard to take you seriously after you already stated you are "out".

You are accusing me of trolling in my own thread after you said 5 posts ago that you are leaving.

It's probably the best I don't know you alright and nice to see you have humble outlook on life, here I was thinking you are some self absorbed #@£@.



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:27 AM
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There is a lot of biased information on ATS, and direct pro-Russian propaganda.

I operate a forum away from here, and every day I see more than 30 new Russian email accounts attempting to sign up to it. This has only been happening over the last three months.

It is immediately clear to anyone who operates a forum that Russia has bots out there seeking forums and comment accounts to sign up to, and the moment it sees a Russian discussion it is flagged on their systems and someone logs in with that account ready to start promoting Russia and attacking the "evil West" and "Ukraine Nazis".

It is known that there is an internet campaign being waged by Russia, as seen on numerous news sites around the world, with the same characters posting the same things in an effort to derail debates and out-vote those making real and factual observations about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

But let me guess, anything anti-Russian is just "evil western propaganda", and anything anti-American is "the truth"? That's usually how it goes with you, right?



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:31 AM
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Videos on Ukraine nazis and Ukraine government shelling cities speak for themselves

No need for bots or shills as truth will always come out



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:32 AM
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Speaking of, did you guys see this

www.bbc.com...

RAF jets were scrambled on Wednesday after two Russian military aircraft were seen off the Cornwall coast, the Ministry of Defence says.

The Russian Bear bombers were escorted from the UK area of interest, but did not enter sovereign airspace, it said.

On the same day, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon warned that Russia's President Putin posed a "real and present danger" to three Baltic states



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: sosobad




Then you had your say, hard to take you seriously after you already stated you are "out".

You are accusing me of trolling in my own thread after you said 5 posts ago that you are leaving.

It's probably the best I don't know you alright and nice to see you have humble outlook on life, here I was thinking you are some self absorbed #@£@.


Lol, really? Hard to take me seriously since I said I was "out"?? That's funny.... You haven't taken a word I've said seriously since my first post. Yeah yeah, laugh it up with your buddies, but you won't take anyone serious who doesn't share the exact outcome you want, right? This is often why the term "shill" is used. I'm not accusing you of such things, but when patterns emerge on certain topics, even if total logic is involved, then it actually becomes safe to assume some are shills...

Are you a shill sosobad? Do you have the ability to step back and look at things objectively?? If so?? Then I'd say you aren't...but they DO exist, more than we think actually. I'll bet we have more members on ATS willing to call me a Nazi shill for being against your thread, than those who would accuse a pro-Russian in a Ukraine thread of being one. I think people are just getting sick of the BS to be honest.

Anyway...




here I was thinking you are some self absorbed #@£@.


Haha, yeah, oiy .. Are you even capable of having a conversation? Is this all there is for people who don't hold pro-Russian stances? Hey, did I call you a self absorbed asshole?? Just curious, in case I forgot.

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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Stormdancer777


Did you see this that also happened on Wednesday also ? . "ARTEMIVSK, Ukraine — Ukrainian soldiers were forced to fight their way out of the embattled town of Debaltseve in the early hours of Wednesday, casting further doubt on the credibility of a days-old cease-fire and eroding the promise of ending a war in Europe that has killed more than 5,000 people.

It was unclear Wednesday how many of the thousands of Ukrainian soldiers trapped in the eastern Ukrainian town had survived the hellish retreat under enemy fire and avoided capture. President Petro O. Poroshenko put the figure at 80 percent, but since the Ukrainian military has never commented on its troop strength, the final accounting may never be known.

By midday on Wednesday, as limping and exhausted soldiers began showing up in Ukraine-held territory, it became clear that the Ukrainian forces had suffered major losses, both in equipment and human life. " www.nytimes.com...

But Porky says "I can inform now that this morning the Armed Forces of Ukraine together with the National Guard completed the operation on the planned and organized withdrawal of a part of units from Debaltsevo. We can say that 80% of troops have been already withdrawn. We are waiting for two more columns. Warriors of the 128th brigade, parts of units of the 30th brigade, the rest of the 25th and the 40th battalions, Special Forces, the National Guard and the police have already left the area.

We can assert that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have fulfilled their tasks completely. This position and success were urgently necessary for us in the course of the Minsk negotiations and after them. We managed to show to the whole world the true face of bandits-separatists backed by Russia, which acted as guarantor and direct participant of the Minsk negotiations." www.president.gov.ua... Funny that eh ?



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:43 AM
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Takes a break from ATS for a few weeks, Walks up to the door, stops and listens, same old tired arguements and accusations.

Paid Shills online/ATS? Of course, Pick any highly charged topic...


Today it's Russia/Ukraine, Yesterday it was 9/11...

Tomorrow?

Know the pattern...
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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:43 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep


Ummm...WOW Wookiep...I generally fall right in line with what you post...generally...But I gotta say that it seems as if your struggling real hard for that...moderator...tag under your screen name...

Lighten up...SoSoBad noticed something strange from the ATS PTB and chose to comment on it...I must say that I agree with his comment...This also isn't the first time I've noticed how they steer the moral compass of ATS over the years...
Some of us just don't care for conformity...or being led by the nose...

We all...get...that this is only a for profit media portal designed to portray a certain conformist reality...
We just hope against all hope that it could actually be better or different than all of the other for profit media portal sites out there........sadly...that's not the case...

But that's...OK...after a while an individual learns to skirt and steer around all of that...usually I just stay the hell away from threads like this......hold my nose and walk clear on the other side of the street...

The only reason I even waded into the fray here was it kinda shocked me...how vociferously you were championing the status quo...






YouSir



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

Don't attempt to take a moral high ground after all the stuff you pulled yes I can stand back and look at things objectively, can you? Can you recognise that I might have a question without you suggesting I should go elsewhere?



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 06:52 AM
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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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Skeptic





originally posted by: sosobad
why use the official ATS account to say there is Russian shills,

It was in response to a direct question. The content of which has previously been publicly discussed here on ATS (working on the next NLBS show, no time to find the thread yet, I think it's the RT as a source discussion).



why not give equal accusations to both sides?

If you look at the entire Twitter conversation, not just select bits, I did.

I had thought it was broad and general knowledge, especially here on ATS, that paid actors are working social media, blog, and discussion sources to spread distortions and propaganda? Was I wrong?

And, a few months back during the height of the Ukraine/Russia crisis, we did indeed identify suspect accounts, some of which were banned. One was bold enough to have identified themselves as some anticipation of cooperation.



I am entitled to ask a question

As I am entitled to respond to questions posed to me on the Twitter channel. I can't, however, guarantee that -- based on people personal biases about me and the operation of ATS -- everyone will agree with or like the answers to those questions.
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posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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I would question the thinking of the OP about there being shills on ATS in general. ATS is not big enough, nor does it have enough influence in any sense of the media to reach a large enough audience for any government body to care about paying someone to come on and post anything.

ATS does not have enough influence, nor do any of the members that I know of, to warrant anything of the sort. Sure, there are a few b-list profiles like Ventura and the like that garner some name recognition, but overall, conspiracy forums are not a hotbed for any type of government shills, unless they are looking for someone targeting an attack of some sort or for some whackbags who are a bit overzealous.

The discussion was on if there are shills paid to post here....so please let me know when ATS has ever been brought into any MSM conversation of merit that had millions of viewers/readers?

Is this site likely monitored by government? Sure. Is there anyone paid to post on here? HIGHLY doubtful.



posted on Feb, 19 2015 @ 02:45 PM
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