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...Vitamin A supplementation....The argument you are using is that you imply that a concurrency implies correlation. This is not a logical argument.
I am not implying anything. Both the CDC and WHO (and others) have done the homework to establish and document Vitamin A supplementation as amazingly effective in reducing the severe complications of measles, including drastic reductions in morbidity rates. Both vaccines and vitamin A have played a major role in reducing both cases and deaths from measles.
Common measles complications include ear infections and diarrhea.
Ear infections occur in about one out of every 10 children with measles and can result in permanent hearing loss.
Diarrhea is reported in less than one out of 10 people with measles.
Some people may suffer from severe complications, such as pneumonia (infection of the lungs) and encephalitis (swelling of the brain). They may need to be hospitalized and could die.
As many as one out of every 20 children with measles gets pneumonia, the most common cause of death from measles in young children.
About one child out of every 1,000 who get measles will develop encephalitis (swelling of the brain) that can lead to convulsions and can leave the child deaf or with intellectual disability.
For every 1,000 children who get measles, one or two will die from it.
Measles may cause pregnant woman to give birth prematurely, or have a low-birth-weight baby.
The Measles chapter of the Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine Preventable Diseases (Pink Book) describes measles complications in more depth.
Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) is a very rare, but fatal disease of the central nervous system that results from a measles virus infection acquired earlier in life. SSPE generally develops 7 to 10 years after a person has measles, even though the person seems to have fully recovered from the illness. Since measles was eliminated in 2000, SSPE is rarely reported in the United States.
Among people who contracted measles during the resurgence in the United States in 1989 to 1991, 4 to 11 out of every 100,000 were estimated to be at risk for developing SSPE. The risk of developing SSPE may be higher for a person who gets measles before they are two years of age. For more information, see Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE): MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia.
Even the largest organization about autism denies that vaccines link to autism: Link
May I ask you whom do you believe in this?
I don't believe anyone who claims to know definitively either way. First and foremost, it's virtually impossible to prove a negative, so it's virtually impossible to prove vaccines do not cause autism. The best one could do is state that there is no known evidence for vaccines causing autism; but lack of evidence does not mean lack of a connection. Second, not enough study has been done to form a truly educated opinion, much less come to conclusions.
Highly speculative. Vaccines are cheap compared to the treatment of ill people. Here is a website showing it (sorry, German only, try google.translate) stopmasern.ch
And, unfortunately, that won't happen as long as it's in the best interests of some to make sure it is never proven.
This goes for every data. I deem this not to be a suitable argument, sorry.
Third, the data can be hidden, misrepresented, misunderstood, misinterpreted, manipulated, etc., either through human ignorance/incompetence, or knowingly and deliberately to skew the results by those with a vested interest to do so.
For example, Merck is facing a class action suit right now as a result of a Whistleblower from the CDC, who has been under gag order, but now admits his part in a break in protocol in analyzing data regarding an increased incidence of autism in African American boys.
Well, maaaaaaybeee in the future - okay, this doesn't sound like a valid argument, do you think? Before, you said that there are valid studies, and now they are gone?
Fourth, as the criteria for clinical diagnosis of autism continues to change, and as the autism spectrum is quite wide and inclusive, and as it continues to be misdiagnosed, it is again virtually impossible to rule anything out at this point.
There are a lot of studies about vaccines and their side effects, and none showed anything about autism - THAT is an assertive statement against vaccines-autism. Even asking for more studies to somehow show a correlation seems like searching for a golden hit, a jackpot based on a weird combination of luck, unknown exterior influences and maybe even bad, but ingeniously camouflaged as valid science.
The available information, and therefore the science, does not support a conclusion either way.
I am not going into religion vs. science!
What laws of nature are violated? What is the color of law? And yes, if it BENEFITS THE MAJORITY... I would like to have ANYONE vaccinated.
The laws of nature, and of nature's God...
But you just try to do exactly that: have a minority been inflicted their chances on a healthy life by wanting the majority to have the right to life their life in complete overbearing ignorance to the needs of that minority.
And it is exactly to protect and guarantee these absolute inalienable rights for each and every individual that we have a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy in which the majority can inflict their will on the minority... even a minority of one.
ETA: I cannot get this to format right with your quotes, and I don't have time now to figure it out, so I hope this makes sense to you. I'm sorry
An oral dose of 30 to 100 mL of 37% formalin can be fatal
Federal Regulations for biological products (including vaccines) limit the amount of aluminum in the recommended individual dose of biological products, including vaccines, to not more than 0.85-1.25 mg.
The amount of aluminum in vaccines currently licensed in the US ranges from 0.85–0.125 mg/dose
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
Which complications would you guess are treated against by using Vitamin A? Correct - Diarrhoe. Nothing else. Nice, that not that many people still die from Diarrhoe. But not the winner against the other, more severe problems.
There have been 43 trials of vitamin A for children aged 6 months to 5 years old, including about 215 633 children In low and middle income countries -- vitamin A supplementation is associated with a 24% reduction in mortality -- Vitamin A supplementation might reduce mortality by preventing measles and diarrhoea; it also prevents blindness -- The evidence for vitamin A is compelling and clear; further trials comparing vitamin A with placebo would be unethical
All children in developing countries diagnosed with measles should receive two doses of vitamin A supplements, given 24 hours apart. This treatment restores low vitamin A levels during measles that occur even in well-nourished children and can help prevent eye damage and blindness. Vitamin A supplements have been shown to reduce the number of deaths from measles by 50%.
Among people who contracted measles during the resurgence in the United States in 1989 to 1991..."
There are a lot of studies about vaccines and their side effects, and none showed anything about autism -
“I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.
... I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives.... My concern has been the decision to omit relevant findings in a particular study for a particular sub group for a particular vaccine. There have always been recognized risks for vaccination and I believe it is the responsibility of the CDC to properly convey the risks associated with receipt of those vaccines.”
THAT is an assertive statement against vaccines-autism.
I am not going into religion vs. science!
you want to live in anarchy.
Measles are VERY VERY contagious - sit beside an ill person and you would get measles with a certainty of 90%!
originally posted by: artistpoet
"Italian Court Rules MMR Vaccine Caused Autism: US Media Blacks Out Story"
originally posted by: artistpoet
Does this/hope this ... helps
Medical experts provide link to autism through vaccinations
22 Medical Studies That Show Vaccines Can Cause Autism