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originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
Your selfish wish to "keep your body as a temple clean and pure" is pure evil against people with immunodeficit illnesses.
First, as one of those people with a compromised immune system, let me thank you for your profound concern from the bottom of my evil heart. Despite the manipulative and hateful Alinsky tactics
People sometimes do die from medicines, it happens. It was not intended by anyone, but sometimes the human body can't cope with medicine. Do people die from chemotherapy? Yes, they sometimes do!
you chose to employ, I will accept your concerns at face value, and assume that your hatefulness is a byproduct of that concern, and in your heart you really just hate the real or imagine "sin" and not the "sinner."
- Yes, 1 in a million might die from side-effects of vaccines.
I can only assume that's okay with you. Better them than you, eh? Life for me but not for thee? Okay. Gotcha.
Before vaccines, lots and lots of people died.
Indeed people did die before vaccines... and people are still dying after vaccines.... some because of those very vaccines, as you yourself noted. But we've already established that it's okay to kill other people if it protects you, right?
One important factor which has not been established is that Vitamin A supplementation has been shown to have at least as much to do with the decrease in morbidity as do the vaccines. Indeed, perhaps more, as measles death rates were already drastically decreasing with improved nutritional health BEFORE the introduction of the measles vaccine Even more so after we began to study, understand and implement a course of Vitamin A supplementation for measles.
- Vaccines cause autism..... They don't.
You don't know that. You cannot know that. Especially given the lack of transparency within the industry, and in general. You cannot and do not know what you cannot and do not know. Consequently, such statement of fact is either deliberate lying or a woeful combination of ignorance and arrogance.
- And vaccines do not only protect Your body, but many others, too. Your selfish wish to "keep your body as a temple clean and pure" is pure evil against people with immunodeficit illnesses. But, hey, it's your body, and they should just stay at home, right?
Pure evil is violating the laws of nature and our inalienable rights by using the color of law (and the business end of a gun) to force your will on others no matter the cost to them... but, hey, it's your body, and you can do whatever you will to mine for your benefit, right? Um, actually, no.
originally posted by: gmoneystunt
a reply to: GetHyped
you didn't even supply your credible evidence or scientific evidence you claimed to have?
Can we at least agree that mercury (in any amount) is bad for us? Or why vaccines like chickenpox (can actually cause the very same illness that it is meant to protect against) considered safe and effective?
The dose makes the poison" is an adage first expressed by Paracelsus intended to indicate a basic principle of toxicology. It means that a substance can produce the harmful effect associated with its toxic properties only if it reaches a susceptible biological system within the body in a high enough concentration (i.e., dose).[1]
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
Snipped per previous mod instructions.
...Vitamin A supplementation....The argument you are using is that you imply that a concurrency implies correlation. This is not a logical argument.
I am not implying anything. Both the CDC and WHO (and others) have done the homework to establish and document Vitamin A supplementation as amazingly effective in reducing the severe complications of measles, including drastic reductions in morbidity rates. Both vaccines and vitamin A have played a major role in reducing both cases and deaths from measles.
Even the largest organization about autism denies that vaccines link to autism: Link
May I ask you whom do you believe in this?
I don't believe anyone who claims to know definitively either way. First and foremost, it's virtually impossible to prove a negative, so it's virtually impossible to prove vaccines do not cause autism. The best one could do is state that there is no known evidence for vaccines causing autism; but lack of evidence does not mean lack of a connection. Second, not enough study has been done to form a truly educated opinion, much less come to conclusions. And, unfortunately, that won't happen as long as it's in the best interests of some to make sure it is never proven. Third, the data can be hidden, misrepresented, misunderstood, misinterpreted, manipulated, etc., either through human ignorance/incompetence, or knowingly and deliberately to skew the results by those with a vested interest to do so. For example, Merck is facing a class action suit right now as a result of a Whistleblower from the CDC, who has been under gag order, but now admits his part in a break in protocol in analyzing data regarding an increased incidence of autism in African American boys. Fourth, as the criteria for clinical diagnosis of autism continues to change, and as the autism spectrum is quite wide and inclusive, and as it continues to be misdiagnosed, it is again virtually impossible to rule anything out at this point.
The available information, and therefore the science, does not support a conclusion either way.
What laws of nature are violated? What is the color of law? And yes, if it BENEFITS THE MAJORITY... I would like to have ANYONE vaccinated.
The laws of nature, and of nature's God, which are endowed by our Creator, as established and affirmed in our Declaration of Independence, beginning with the right to life, as well as the right to be secure in my person, and free to nurture, protect and defend it accordingly. So, for example, as long as even one death is possible with vaccinations, then that person's natural absolute inalienable right to life is violated by mandated vaccination programs. Therefore, no legitimate law demanding such can be established; such a law would be "under color of law."
And it is exactly to protect and guarantee these absolute inalienable rights for each and every individual that we have a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy in which the majority can inflict their will on the minority... even a minority of one.edit on 19-2-2015 by Boadicea because: formatting
ETA: I cannot get this to format right with your quotes, and I don't have time now to figure it out, so I hope this makes sense to you. I'm sorryedit on 19-2-2015 by Boadicea because: (no reason given)
The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin.
originally posted by: gmoneystunt
a reply to: GetHyped
natural news quoted the department of defense. So your saying its irrelevant? Is what the Department of defense says not good enough for you either.
It is referring to mercury in general.
ETHYLmercury is half Mercury.
Mercury does not come out of the body in days.
I am not trying to side step everything in your post. I just don't see the point of spending a lot of time on posts if your just you don't approve of my sources.
I understand you say dosage matters.
That may be true if ETHYLmercury didn't contain mercury but it does. Mercury should never be put into a human body at any dosage
You are also side stepping. Wheres your link for ETHYLmercury (mercury) is safely passed through the body in a matter of days?
Ethylmercury clears from blood with a half-life of about 18 days in adults
originally posted by: Pardon?
originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: Pardon?
If you believe what msm tells you. There are stories behind both those issues that you might want to look into.
Look outside the US for facts you may not have been told by US media.
I don't live in the US.