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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: gmoneystunt
If you've reviewed the scientific evidence in an intellectually honest manner and still believe there's any controversy around the issue
Reasonable scientists can and do differ in their interpretation of information.
I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.
originally posted by: SubTruth
a reply to: Boadicea
Hospitals are really pushing vaccines hard these days. They constantly remind you about the flu shot or this and that. Drug companies are not in business for good intentions they are in business for profit.
The CDC's decision to play up flu deaths dates back a decade, when it realized the public wasn't following its advice on the flu vaccine. During the 2003 flu season "the manufacturers were telling us that they weren't receiving a lot of orders for vaccine,"Dr. Glen Nowak, associate director for communications at CDC's National Immunization Program, told National Public Radio. "It really did look like we needed to do something to encourage people to get a flu shot." The CDC's response was its "Seven-Step 'Recipe' for Generating Interest in, and Demand for, Flu (or any other) Vaccination," a slide show Nowak presented at the 2004 National Influenza Vaccine Summit. Here is the "Recipe that fosters influenza vaccine interest and demand," in the truncated language that appears on his slides: "Medical experts and public health authorities [should] publicly (e.g. via media) state concern and alarm (and predict dire outcomes) - and urge influenza vaccination." This recipe, his slide show indicated, would result in "Significant media interest and attention ... in terms that motivate behavior (e.g. as 'very severe,' 'more severe than last or past years,' 'deadly')." Other emotive recommendations included fostering "the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza" and "Visible/tangible examples of the seriousness of the illness (e.g., pictures of children, families of those affected coming forward) and people getting vaccinated (the first to motivate, the latter to reinforce)."
The CDC unabashedly decided to create a mass market for the flu vaccine by enlisting the media into panicking the public. An obedient and unquestioning media obliged by hyping the numbers, and 10 years later it is obliging still.
This is a business just like Burger King they want your business and these foolish health care providers are the sales team. That being said real honest none connected studies need to be done. 3rd party with outside oversight. The rise in autism rates needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed now. The FDA is a flat out failed system and everyone involved should be fired or stand trial for crimes. The amount of corruption is breath taking. Many workers in the FDA have direct ties into the industries and I believe kickbacks and favors happen as common place.
In his report, Howley links to a letter published on the Natural News website from the summer of 2014 sent by Dr. Thompson to then-CDC director Dr. Julie Gerberding in February 2004, where he expressed his concerns to Dr. Gerberding about how the CDC was concealing data linking the measles MMR vaccine to autism. (Letter here.) Howley points out that Gerberding is now an executive vice president at Merck, the pharmaceutical giant that is currently the sole manufacturer of the measles vaccine. Gerberding originally left the CDC to take the position of president of Merck’s vaccine division.
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: ManFromEurope
Yes, those who are genetically inferior should be left for nature to take its course.
All these advances in science and medicine have led to all these idiotic, weak bodied, and weak minded people to survive into adulthood when before nature would have weeded them out.
originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: GetHyped
No it actually hasn't. I belive in the MMR and soubt it causes autism, but it has not been debunked. Most cases of extreme autism are causes by genetic deletion events, but we aren't certain what factors may lead to so many cases. Part of tge increase is diagnostic but we dont know what external factora may land someone on tge autism spectrum.
Claiming it is debunked is b.s. because there hasnt been a large and long enough study done.
originally posted by: Boadicea
As you must know, there is much disagreement and debate within the scientific and medical communities regarding vaccination-induced autism,
especially among African-American boys, including by a CDC whistleblower.
I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.
It is impossible to be sure of one's facts when one obviously does not have all the facts because they are being willfully and deliberately kept from us.
What else is being kept from us???
originally posted by: Boadicea
As I've already stated nutritional research and increased understanding of the vital importance of proper nutritional intakes, as well as the negative effects of nutritional deficiencies has already served us well. I would even posit that proper nutritional health will do far more overall for strengthening the weak than vaccinations will.
originally posted by: Boadicea
Delayed vaccination schedules have also been implemented with much success, including the separation of the measles, mumps, and ruebella vaccinations into separate vaccinations, rather than combined as they are now.
It does not, and never should be, a one-size-fits-all-or-nothing approach.
originally posted by: theMediator
I feel exactly the same way. We disregard nutrition way too much!
If our body needs to fight off "intruders" they need the right munitions, the right tools to create working anti-bodies. I'm sure that at least 50% of people on one medication or another is actually victim of a nutrition deficiency from not having right tools our bodies need to function properly.
But where's the money in prevention? It's not patentable for one...
What I don't understand is the seeming need that journalists have to divide everyone up into two distinct camps---"pro-vaxers" and "anti-vaxers" and include anyone who questions "the Authorities" in the "antis" because they simply don't step up and toe the Official Line. Even those people who question the wisdom of vaccinating newborn children are plopped into the "anti-vax" group.
The National Anti-Vaccination League was founded in 1896 in Britain, growing from earlier smaller organizations in London, originally under the title Anti-Compulsory Vaccination League. The organisation opposed compulsory vaccination, particularly against smallpox. It was part of a wider anti-vaccinationist movement, arguing that vaccination did more harm than good.link