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Jesus' Father is not Yahweh, the two are nothing alike.
John 10
38 "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do them, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father."
34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
23 And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
11 “Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out. 12 And when you go into a household, greet it. 13 If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14 And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. 15 Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!
15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
John 17
23 I in them and you in me--so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
originally posted by: AreUKiddingMe
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
You evidently have a serious issue with the Bible and God. I'm seeing this type of thread consistently almost every day from you. If they weren't so lengthy I'd call them troll posts. What do you have against the Bible that you will go to so great lengths to argue about it? Can you pick on a different religion or something? Pick on atheists I don't care. But starting this stuff up is only meant to do one thing, to confuse people and discredit the Bible. If this is how you get your fun, have at it. But you know enough about the Bible that I would guess that at one time you were a devout Christian. Come back prodigal son, there is room at the altar for you, yes you.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: DeathSlayer
Typical Christian response. Just because I do not believe in your man-made god does not mean I am an atheist or do not believe in God or the Creator. I know for a fact God exists, just not your version. That's like me saying you do not believe in God because you disagree with my version.
If you would have bothered paying attention to anything I say, it would be clear that I am a theist and not an atheist. But of course, you do not bother reading the thread, instead you make a knee-jerk reaction to the title of the thread.
By the way, you are the one who does not see the glory of the image of God. Well, you do see it, you see it right now as you look at your computer, you just don't recognize it for what it truly is. You are seeing the glory of Christ right now in the image of light your eyes create. You know, that thing the bible calls the "image of God" and "light of the world"? Yeah, you see it right now, you just don't recognize it.
So no, I am not blinded to the glory of Christ, it is you are who blinded to it. You believe in a false image.