White House REFUSES To Call 21 Beheading Victims CHRISTIANS In Statement Against ISIS Attack

a reply to: undo

I think he was being sarcastic.

This attack by IS was obviously a religious one. That doesn't mean we should play into their hands and give them the reactions they want though. I think the USA's response was adequate.

That said, i agree that Christians, and all others who are not extremists, need to exercise caution in the Middle-East. It would be good to see all innocent people removed from immediate danger, but many don't want to be forced out of their lands, and understandably so.

The best we can hope for is the return to normalcy in these lands. But that, right now, appears to be a distant wish.

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Not doing the will of the people would empower those who can find any number of impeachable offenses by this POTUS.

What about the will of the people who doesn't want America getting involved?

Thus the pendulum.
If Obama didn't downplay every event like this, that pendulum would have swung way over from where he wants it to be.

i'm like everyone else when i say, the muslims themselves need to stop this but they aren't. for some reason.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

I also don't think ISIS is going to be storming Virginia Beach anytime soon.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Not doing the will of the people would empower those who can find any number of impeachable offenses by this POTUS.

What about the will of the people who doesn't want America getting involved?

Thus the pendulum.
If Obama didn't downplay every event like this, that pendulum would have swung way over from where he wants it to be.

How has he downplayed this specific event though?

All i see is a well thought response which refused to give IS what they wished for - a response dealing with the topic of religion. IS sent the West a religious threat with the murders of 21 Christians, and the White House rendered that threat ineffective by not playing their game.

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

I also don't think ISIS is going to be storming Virginia Beach anytime soon.

The way Obama is handling this, they won't have to, they will already be there. Recruited from amongst the population.

originally posted by: undo
i'm like everyone else when i say, the muslims themselves need to stop this but they aren't. for some reason.

Well let's think a minute, shall we? What countries are ISIS operating in primarily? Libya, Iraq, Syria... What countries are massively unstable right now due to, shall we say, "outside influences"?

How exactly do you propose they "stop this"?

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

I also don't think ISIS is going to be storming Virginia Beach anytime soon.

Agreed...they're apparently keeping very busy on the beaches of Libya.
So many heads...so little time.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

I also don't think ISIS is going to be storming Virginia Beach anytime soon.

The way Obama is handling this, they won't have to, they will already be there. Recruited from amongst the population.

How? Why? To what purpose? What does this even mean, other than another sentence that links "Obama" and "they"?

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Not doing the will of the people would empower those who can find any number of impeachable offenses by this POTUS.

What about the will of the people who doesn't want America getting involved?

Thus the pendulum.
If Obama didn't downplay every event like this, that pendulum would have swung way over from where he wants it to be.

What downplay? Did you want him to start screaming kill them like that nutcase on FOX? He has asked congress for permission to go after ISIS so maybe you should be whining about them dragging their feet and not screaming for blood.

originally posted by: undo
i'm like everyone else when i say, the muslims themselves need to stop this but they aren't. for some reason.

But they are trying, with our help.

Here is a list of forces currently aiding in the effort against IS:

U.S.- led coalitions: Combined Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve

Intervening in Iraq & Syria:

United States (Leader)

United Kingdom

Jordan

Morocco

Iraqi Kurdistan (In Iraq, and in Kobanî, Syria)

Only intervening in Iraq:

Australia

Belgium

Canada

Denmark

France

Germany (trainers on ground)

Italy (exploratory, logistic support and trainers on ground)

Netherlands

New Zealand (exploratory)

Norway (trainers on ground)

Portugal (trainers on ground)

Spain (trainers on ground)

Turkey (trainers on ground)

Only intervening in Syria:

Bahrain

Qatar

Saudi Arabia

United Arab Emirates (resumed airstrikes on 7 February 2015)

Support

Military aid:

Albania

Bosnia and Herzegovina

Bulgaria

Croatia

Czech Republic

Estonia

Greece

Hungary

Kuwait

Lebanon

Singapore

Unnamed Middle Eastern countries

Unnamed Eastern European countries

Humanitarian aid:

European Union

Austria

Ireland

Japan

Luxembourg

Poland

Slovakia

South Korea

Sweden

Switzerland

Intelligence aid:

Israel

Iranian intervention:

Iran

Hezbollah

Local forces in Iraq:

Iraq Government (supported by U.S. & allies & Iran)

Shi'a militias: (supported by Iran)

- Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq
- Badr Organization
- Kata'ib Hezbollah
- Promised Day Brigade

Iraqi Kurdistan

Nineveh Plain Protection Units

Local forces in Syria:

Selected groups in the Syrian Opposition (U.S. & allies)

Syrian Kurdistan (U.S. & allies, & foreign Kurds)

Local Syrian guerrillas

en.wikipedia.org...

Muslim forces are very much trying to destroy IS. So are we.

a reply to: daaskapital

holy crap. that many groups trying to get isis and isis just gets bigger and bigger and more and more christians are dying in those countries. something wrong with that picture.

a reply to: daaskapital

All those countries arrayed against them...and they're STILL gaining ground and increasing their numbers...NOT BAD for a J.V. Team.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

It's not Isis I am worried about, it's those of us with honesty as our guardian, and truth as our guide. I am an atheist, I don't want to see us as a species fall into the trap of becoming that which evolution has taken so long to liberate us from. It saddens me immensely.

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: daaskapital

holy crap. that many groups trying to get isis and isis just gets bigger and bigger and more and more christians are dying in those countries. something wrong with that picture.

See, there it is again. Christians dying. Why add that caveat?

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: daaskapital

holy crap. that many groups trying to get isis and isis just gets bigger and bigger and more and more christians are dying in those countries. something wrong with that picture.

See, there it is again. Christians dying. Why add that caveat?

cause it's an epidemic, in the near, mid and far east, atm.

originally posted by: undo

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: daaskapital

holy crap. that many groups trying to get isis and isis just gets bigger and bigger and more and more christians are dying in those countries. something wrong with that picture.

See, there it is again. Christians dying. Why add that caveat?

cause it's an epidemic, in the near, mid and far east, atm.

It isn't, though. The headlines have mentioned people from all walks of life being targeted. What makes you pick the Christian bit out of there to be concerned about?

originally posted by: undo

originally posted by: AshOnMyTomatoes

originally posted by: undo
a reply to: daaskapital

holy crap. that many groups trying to get isis and isis just gets bigger and bigger and more and more christians are dying in those countries. something wrong with that picture.

See, there it is again. Christians dying. Why add that caveat?

cause it's an epidemic, in the near, mid and far east, atm.

The murders, by IS, of anyone other than them is an epidemic in the Middle-East, at the moment...

originally posted by: Jonjonj

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Jonjonj
Can those who are making this religious just stop and think.

Sadly, I don't believe ISIS will listen to your sage advice.

It's not Isis I am worried about, it's those of us with honesty as our guardian, and truth as our guide. I am an atheist, I don't want to see us as a species fall into the trap of becoming that which evolution has taken so long to liberate us from. It saddens me immensely.

I really do appreciate the way you think. Honestly, it's amazing to me that we're even still around today, considering the evil, mankind has had to slog through throughout the ages.

I believe that one of the reasons we ARE still around today, is because we have never shied away from uniting, confronting and destroying genuine evil when we finally recognize and understand it's threat.

ISIS IS true evil...it will eventually be vanquished...and we, in the end, will become just a little bit better a species...as a result.