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What is Freemasonry? One Mason to another...

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine




But YOU claimed he was a freemason. It's up to YOU to prove it. I asked if he's now a fundamentalist for obvious reasons.


I was being light hearted
But he was carrying what appeared to be Masonic Regalia ... the chap who was being harassed that is
I do not understand your reasoning about him now being a fundamental Christian unless you are refering to the guy who was harassing the Mason Shriner
As for the Mason Shriner ... A mason could verify if he was Mason by the regalia

It is not important either way unless you have a point to make ...




posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: artistpoet
a reply to: Tangerine




But YOU claimed he was a freemason. It's up to YOU to prove it. I asked if he's now a fundamentalist for obvious reasons.


I was being light hearted
But he was carrying what appeared to be Masonic Regalia ... the chap who was being harassed that is
I do not understand your reasoning about him now being a fundamental Christian unless you are refering to the guy who was harassing the Mason Shriner
As for the Mason Shriner ... A mason could verify if he was Mason by the regalia

It is not important either way unless you have a point to make ...


I was referring to your post claiming that a former Mason said freemasons worship Lucifer. It seems reasonable that you would first determine whether the person making this claim had actually been a Mason. Regalia doesn't prove that one is a Mason. I thought my point was obvious: claims are not facts until proven.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

I was poking fun at that idea


I was referring to your post claiming that a former Mason said freemasons worship Lucifer. It seems reasonable that you would first determine whether the person making this claim had actually been a Mason. Regalia doesn't prove that one is a Mason. I thought my point was obvious: claims are not facts until proven.


I was poking fun at that idea ... sorry if my sense of humour came across as serious



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

Just for the record ... I am well aware that Masons do not worship Lucifer or Satan and never stated that
All I did was post a stupid youtube vid of someone actually accusing/harrasing a supposed Mason of worshipping Lucifer

No disrespect to Masons intended ... I shall endeavour to reign my sense of humour/sarcasm in in future

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: artistpoet
a reply to: Tangerine

I was poking fun at that idea


I was referring to your post claiming that a former Mason said freemasons worship Lucifer. It seems reasonable that you would first determine whether the person making this claim had actually been a Mason. Regalia doesn't prove that one is a Mason. I thought my point was obvious: claims are not facts until proven.


I was poking fun at that idea ... sorry if my sense of humour came across as serious


OK. It's difficult to tell who is joking and who isn't. I know that some people do actually believe this. Thanks for explaining.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: artistpoet
a reply to: Tangerine

Just for the record ... I am well aware that Masons do not worship Lucifer or Satan and never stated that
All I did was post a stupid youtube vid of someone actually accusing/harrasing a supposed Mason of worshipping Lucifer

No disrespect to Masons intended ... I shall endeavour to reign my sense of humour/sarcasm in in future


No need to rein in your sense of humor but it's probably best to indicate that it's not intended to be taken seriously. A visit to the religious forum demonstrates that people believe even more bizarre things.
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

No problem ... Thank you for understanding and I take your point ... and will try be clearer about my intent in future
A lesson learnt



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 12:59 AM
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a reply to: artistpoet
Carrying regalia doesn't make one a Mason. You can purchase Masonic regalia fairly easily online.



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: Saurus

originally posted by: artistpoet

Would such a person be acceptable to Masonry ... not that I am petitioning to join


The test is a direct yes or no question - you must answer yes or no:

"Do you believe in a Supreme Being?"

If yes, you are eligible to join. If no, not. If in-between, you must select either yes or no.


Lucifer is a supreme being.


Lucifer was a mistake from an underachiever. But I'll ask my friends who are 33rds what Lucifer looks like. Perhaps you can share that bit of information.


Lucifer was not a mistake. He was created as an archangel - a supreme being - a chief over many angels. This archangel made the mistake and decided to rebel against his creator because the creator put mankind above the angels including his (God) love for them and this is what broke the camel's back for Lucifer. Lucifer expected the humans to worship him, not the other way around. When he was expelled from heaven he kept his supernatural powers. These powerful powers have not been taken away..... not yet anyway.

Due to Lucifer's powers; not any angel could kick him out of heaven, it literally took war and another archangel (Michael) to remove Lucifer. Not only was Michael involved with this war but angels on both sides, those that follow the creator and those that decided to follow Lucifer.

This supreme being (Lucifer) today reveals himself as God - not some scary horned demon with a pitchfork. He has secretly moved into various religions, sects, cults, and various secret societies including the Masons, Rosicrucians, Ordo Templis Orientis, Golden Dawn, The Knights Templar, The Illuminati, The Bilderberg Group etc.... disguising himself as God the creator. He preforms various miracles and disguises his true self so mankind will freely kneel before him and worship him - which at this time you lose certain God given rights over your body and spirit. The same happens also when calling upon and/or worshipping other fallen angels and/or demons.

Lucifer proudly walks the halls of the Vatican. Today the Vatican openly worships Lucifer. It has been seen numerous times on TV. Lucifer has infiltrated all religions attempting to deceive those who worship the one true God. His time is getting short and he knows this - soon judgement will come upon him and those that worship him - WHETHER THEY KNOW IT OR NOT - meaning there are many who unknowingly worship the dragon and those will receive the same punishment as he will.

And to the unbelievers - you think this is myth? Then I say put up or shut up. Put it to the test. I don't need to know because I know he is real and exist BUT if you want to test this alleged theory of Lucifer - then stop mouthing off and put it to the test with witnesses and video tape. Go online and search how to contact him through prayer, worship combined with animal sacrifice and he will come to you.

Katy Perry and numerous other entertainers, movies stars, sports players, etc.... have openly confessed to giving their lives to Lucifer for fame and fortune. If you decide to do so watch your life change but then when your life comes to end is when payment in full is required - your soul.


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posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:02 AM
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originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: Woodcarver

Have you made it clear to your lodge brothers that you don't believe in any kind of deity and how do they respond?


It is not our place to judge.

Once a person has joined our order, his Spiritual journey is his own, and we have no right to judge him for whatever he does or doesn't believe.

However, a Mason who does not believe in God will gain very little from Freemasonry and will invariably leave by their own choice.



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

What are the "bad kind of rituals"? Interesting about the constitution. I was unaware of that. Can others verify that?



There are no bad kind of rituals.

My book of constitutions does not mention 'stupid atheists.'

It sounds like a fake source to me.



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

That suggests that there's no effort to teach members about non-Abrahamic religions.


Nor does Masonry teach its members about Abrahamic religions.

It simply uses lessons from the Abrahamic Sacred Volumes to illustrate certain moral values in the ritual.



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:09 AM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

Unless that person is a woman! And then she would only be welcome in "irregular" lodges.


That is correct.



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: Saurus

originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: Woodcarver

Have you made it clear to your lodge brothers that you don't believe in any kind of deity and how do they respond?


It is not our place to judge.

Once a person has joined our order, his Spiritual journey is his own, and we have no right to judge him for whatever he does or doesn't believe.

However, a Mason who does not believe in God will gain very little from Freemasonry and will invariably leave by their own choice.


You didn't answer the question. I asked whether YOU made it clear to your lodge brothers that YOU don't believe in any kind of deity and how do THEY respond? Saying that Masons have no right to judge each other doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

Didn't you previously say the Masons didn't have to believe in God and now you say if they don't they'll get little from Freemasonry and will invariably leave? Invariably? It's as though this post of yours was written by a different person than the one who wrote the other posts under your screen name.
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posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:18 AM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

As a pantheist (not a panentheist), how were you able to answer yes? I'm not suggesting that you were dishonest. I just wonder how you conceive of a supreme being. Judging by your icon, I assume that you are an occultist. My pagan friend, who is an accomplished occultist, said he saw similarities to occult orders but most of the lodge members who had not been exposed to that sort of thing were not aware of it.


My apologies for my earlier typo. I am more of a panentheist, not a pantheist. I tried to fix it when I saw it, but was too late.

I am an occultist. I believe deeply in a Supreme Being.

I believe that there is one God. No more, no less.

God manifests and relates to different people in different ways. Each manifestation of God must fit in with a person's culture, or that person will not accept God. Therefore, a Hindu, who's culture dictates that God is mystical by nature, will readily accept God as an elephant's head on a human body, but would struggle with the idea of God being a mortal man.

A Westerner, who's culture dictates that Western religion is more ethical than mystical, would not accept a man with an elephant's head as being a God, but, in line with their culture, needed God to appear as a Man with moral and ethical teachings. It is what a Westerner relates to.

In order for God to be known to all, God must manifest to different peoples in different ways. As with the Holy Trinity, which are three manifestations of God required to explain different attributes of God, so there are more manifestations, each which are accepted by other people around the world.

The act of dividing the different manifestations into different 'religions' is a human idea. Three to Trinitarian Christians, many to the Egyptians, many to the Hindus.

Thoth is God. Ganesha is God. Hermes is God.
Yet, there is one God - no more, no less.

This is my belief. Some Freemasons agree with my belief. Most do not.


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posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:22 AM
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Now, for the first time ever, we shall conclusively prove that Freemasonry is actually a worship of Lucifer, the Light-Bearer; of course, since Lucifer and Satan are Biblically the same person, Freemasonry is really the worship of Satan. We shall prove this by quoting their own sources, and depicting their own symbols. In symbols, Freemasonry reveals more about itself than it ever does in its writings; yet, we shall start with their writings, for there you shall find the "smoking gun" proof that Masons worship Lord Satan. Once you comprehend this truth, you shall understand why they have been so anxious all these centuries to keep the lid of secrecy tightly screwed down, for if people really understood that Masonry is a worship of Satan, no one would join, and the citizens of most communities would rise up as one to demand that the organization be completely outlawed. Thus, you have secrets within secrets , just as we have quoted above; further, you have a continuous public relations campaign promoting the lie that Freemasonry is not a religion, and is just a good works social organization.

Now, let us inform you, with their own words, that Freemasons really worship Satan, at the higher levels.

LUCIFER PRAISED AS THE LIGHT-BEARER OF FREEMASONRY

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable, blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!" [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, p. 321, 19th Degree of Grand Pontiff; Red Emphasis added]

What a revelation! From the first degree, the first Initiation, the Mason is urged mightily to "seek the Light"! The average Mason is continually saying that he is "seeking the Light", and will spend his entire life "moving toward the Light". Almost every person in Western Civilization will assume that this "Light" is the revelation of the God of the Bible; indeed, this statement is held up continuously to try to convince us that Masonry is Christian. Yet, here, Albert Pike is saying that Lucifer is the One who bears the Light of Freemasonry! Lucifer is the Light-bearer of Freemasonry .

Pike's sentence immediately preceding this one confirms not only that Lucifer is the Light-bearer, but that Masons of previous degrees have been led to believe that the opposite was true. Since the wording of this sentence is a little arcane [understood only by those with special knowledge], I asked former Illuminist Satanist Doc Marquis, for his explanation. But, we are getting a little ahead of ourselves now; let us examine this sentence.

"The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the nineteenth Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God Alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer." [Ibid.]

At first glance, this sentence seems to contradict the one we first quoted above, where Pike identifies Lucifer as the Masonic Light-bearer. However when you understand the esoteric explanation from Doc Marquis, your understanding clears up completely.

First, Pike identifies the Apocalypse as being the Book of Revelation written by the Apostle John. Then, Pike states that other, similar books from other religions, are just as 'inspired' as Revelation, mentioning Plato, Philo, the Sephar Yezirah, and the Sohar. Pike says all three of these books -- Apocalypse [Revelation], the Sephar Yezirah, and the Sohar, are all identically "inspired". Since these latter two books are of non-Christian faiths, Pike is saying that the contents of Revelation are no big deal. Therefore, it is no big deal that the Book of Revelation denigrates the "pomp and works" of Satan, since the God of that book is known to hate Satan.

Then, Pike says that these three books "are the completest embodiment of Occultism". [Ibid.] Now, we understand that Pike views the God of the Apocalypse as being the opposite but equal to Satan, just as typical Occultists believe and teach!

Secondly, Doc Marquis provides the esoteric, occultic, explanation. Pike is also saying in this sentence that, in the previous 18 degrees, Masons believed that God was the Light-bearer, but now, in this 19th Degree, Pike is giving them new revelation. This insight completely squares with stated Masonic policy of deliberately misleading Masons in the lower degrees until they were really ready for the "truth". This is the truth -- Masonry worships Lucifer .

PIKE'S TYPICAL SATANIC PHRASE -- OUT WHERE EVERYONE CAN SEE

Pike then gives concrete evidence of Freemason's worship of Satan/Lucifer on the very front of the cover of Morals and Dogma ! Below the round seal of "God", Pike writes a phrase written in Latin, which proves to be a typical Satanic phrase. One look at this phrase would alert any Satanist that the contents of this book are Satanic! A Satanist would also understand immediately that all of Freemasonry is Satanic.

What is this phrase? "DEUS MEUMQUE JUS" The literal meaning is "God and My Right"

Doc Marquis says this statement is a very typical one within Satanism. It has two meanings, one within the other. First, this phrase means that the Freemason can depend upon their God to determine their Right and Justice. Secondly, since the God of Freemasonry is Lucifer, Masons are saying that they are "using occult methods", through Lucifer, to achieve their Rights and Justice. Marquis says that this phrase is very powerful and very dangerous within Satanism. The second a Satanist sees this phrase in Latin on Pike's book, he knows the material within is Satanism, without reading a word!

"SEETHING ENERGIES OF LUCIFER WITHIN YOUR HANDS"!

"The day has come when Fellow Craftsman must know and apply their knowledge. The lost key to their grade is the mastery of emotion , which places the energy of the universe at their disposal. Man can only expect to be entrusted with great power by proving his ability to use it constructively and selflessly. When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare." [Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree, K.T., The Lost Keys of Freemasonry or The Secret of Hiram Abiff , Forward by Reynold E. Blight, 33rd Degree, K.T., Illustrations by J. Augustus Knapp, 32nd Degree, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, Inc., Richmond, Virginia, p. 48; Emphasis Added]

This statement is the most bold and concise anyone can create in the English language! It boldly states that, once the Mason learns to control his emotion, and to properly apply the "dynamo of living power", he can be assured of being able to control the "seething energies of Lucifer" in his hands. Further, he admits that Masonry is the Craft, the old name for Witchcraft! Further, all Satanists are assured that, if they will join the coven and learn the Craft, he will control the supernatural power of Satan, just as Manly P. Hall is promising here.

This is most powerful proof that Freemasonry is Satanism, because its language is direct and clear, not cluttered with deliberately confusing arcane language that only an insider can understand. Further, note that Hall and Reynold E. Blight are 33rd Degree Masons, while the Illustrator is 32nd Degree. Macoy Publishing Company is also one of the most respected of all Masonic Publishing Houses.

REVELATIONS OF TUBAL-CAIN

But, the revelations from this paragraph are not finished yet. Note that Hall makes reference to Tubal-Cain, above. Let us review this sentence, as it also reveals Satanism. The Mason must "follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a plowshare." In the Masonic Quiz Book, the candidate is asked this question: "Who was Tubal Cain?" Answer: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans." [William P. Peterson, Editor, Masonic Quiz Book: "Ask Me Brother", Chicago, Illinois, Charles T. Power Company, 1950, p. 18, 88, 131, 213; also found in John Yarker, The Arcane Schools: A Review of their Origin and Antiquity: With a General History of Freemasonry and Its Relation to the Theosophic Scientific and Philosophic Mysteries, Belfast, Ireland, William Tait, 1909, p. 30; also found in A. R. Chambers, Editor, Questions and Answers, 1972, p. 237; also found in Malcom Duncan, Duncan's Ritual of Freemasonry , New York, David McKay Company, Inc., n.d. 3rd Edition, p. 94.]

In fact, in the Third Degree of Master Mason, Tubal-Cain is the password given.

Other than identifying Freemasonry with paganism in this sentence, what is the meaning of the Vulcan of the pagans? This question is very important, because Manly P. Hall advises the Mason that, once he has the seething energies of Lucifer in his hands, he is to walk in Tubal-Cain's footsteps. Hall makes it sound like Tubal-Cain is one of the Greek gods, does he not? And, we know conclusively that Tubal-Cain is Vulcan of the Pagans. Let us review who Vulcan of the pagans is, by looking within occult sources.

"Vulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts and light. The festival in honor of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered." [Percival George Woodcock, Short Dictionary of Mythology, New York, Philosophical Library, p. 152]. "According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil." [J.E. Cirlot, translated by Jack Sage, A Dictionary of Symbols , New York, Dorset Press, 1991, p. 362]. "It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil ." [Woodcock, op. cit., p. 150-151; Emphasis added]

Wow! In one fell swoop, we learn that Manly P. Hall tells the Mason that he can have the seething energies of Lucifer in his hands, and then tells him to follow in the footsteps of the "Christian devil", to whom "human sacrifices " are offered!

THE INFERNAL NAMES

By now, even the most hardened of skeptics should be convinced that Freemasonry is Lucifer/Satan worship. However, for those who may still need more convincing, let us consider the Infernal Names by which Masonry masks its many references to Satan. In the Satanic Bible, we see 77 names by which pagans have referred to Satan over the centuries. Let us quickly review some of the "Infernal Names" of Satanism found within Masonry. [Satanic Bible, Anton LaVey, p. 144-46]

We shall list the Freemason teaching on each of these names, and then the explanation.

Baphomet -- "The Gnostics held that it [universal agent] composed the igneous [pertaining to fire] body of the Holy Spirit, and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes ." [Pike, op. cit., p. 734, teaching of the 28th Degree; Emphasis added]

We find it absolutely incredible that the Freemasons should portray the Holy Spirit with the Satanic symbol, Baphomet !

This symbol was created by one of the foremost Satanists and Freemasons of all time, Eliphas Levi. Over the centuries, it has been recognized as one of the most evil of all symbols. As you look closely at Baphomet, you will see the emphasis is on sex, as this Being is androgynous -- both male and female -- you can see it has the breasts of a woman, and an erect phallus. In fact, two serpents are shown coiled around the erect phallus, a phallus that looks suspiciously large. This Being has the head of the "Horned Goat" another title for Satan. In the book, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, Dr. Burns says, "In a book on witchcraft, The Complete Book of Witchcraft and Demonology ... the caption states that he is 'the horned god of the witches, symbol of sex incarnate'." [p. 51] If you look carefully, you will see Baphomet making the sign of the Devil's triad with his right hand. "Baphomet is also known as the Sabbatic goat, in whose form Satan is to be worshipped at the Witches' Sabbath". [Frank Gaynor, Dictionary of Mysticism, New York, Philosophical Library, 1953, p. 24]

Then, we discovered that Baphomet is officially approved as a symbol of the Church of Satan [The Occult Emporium, Winter , 1993-1994, p. 54] and that it is worn by the Priest of Satan [Ibid., 1990-1991, p. 26]

Since Albert Pike linked Baphomet with the Goat of Mendes , we will show this obviously Satanic symbol, as well.
Look carefully at this very Satanic Pentagram, because Freemasonry makes huge use of Pentagrams. Look at the pentagrams we show below. This Pentagram is used by the Eastern Star, which is the Freemason division for women! Once again, Masonry utilizes a very evil Satanic symbol for the Order that trains its young, impressionable girls. Why didn't Masonry at least utilize the "Good Star" with one point up, rather than the most evil 5-pointed star, this Goats Head of Mendes? Truly, their use of this symbol tells us exactly that they are evil through and through, even to their own young girls.

We discovered this symbol at a Wiccan site for jewelry. They were chortling over the fact that the Masonic Ring Emblem was really a disguised Pentagram! As you can see, the figure on the left is the typical Masonic Ring symbol, with the compass, square, and rule. The figure on the right depicts the full figure from which the Ring symbol was taken. If you look closely, you can see two 5-pointed stars. One of them is colored darker than the other. The darker shade Pentagram is the 2-points-up Evil Pentagram depicting Satan, while the other, lighter shaded Pentagram is the 1-point-up Good Star, depicting Lucifer. [See the Lucifer-Satan Pentagram explanation, below].

From this depiction, you can see that the Masonic Ring symbol is just a disguised Pentagram, with both the "Good" and "Evil" stars represented! In other words, this Wiccan site is trumpeting to the world that Freemasonry serves both the good Lucifer and the evil Satan!

Thoth -- "The first HERMES was the Intelligence or Word of God. Moved with compassion for a race living without law ... God sent to man Osiris and Isis, accompanied by THOTH, the incarnation or terrestrial repetition of the first HERMES; who taught men the arts, science, and the ceremonies of religion; and then ascended to Heaven or the Moon." [Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 255, 17th Degree, Knights of the East and West; Emphasis was in the original].

The founder of the House of Theosophy, Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, whose books were all written by her demonic Guiding Spirits in a form we call Automatic Writing, ties Thoth together for us nicely. "... Hermes, the god of wisdom, called also Thoth, Tat, Set, Set, and Sat-an; and that he was, furthermore, when viewed under his bad aspect, Typhon, the Egyptian Satan , who was also Set." [Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled , Vol. I: Science, New York, Trow's Printing and Bookbinding Company, 1877, p. 554, xxxiii. Colored Emphasis added]

I find it highly interesting that Blavatsky, like Anton LaVey in the Satanic Bible, had no trouble tying the Infernal Name, Thoth, with Satan, and especially the Egyptian Satan ! Remember Pike's words, quoted in the very beginning, that "Masonry is identical to the ancient Mysteries"! This statement means that the Freemasons believe the same as all the Ancient Mysteries and worship the same god, Satan, albeit under different names.

Since Blavatsky mentioned another of the Infernal Names, Typhon, and has identified him as the Egyptian Satan, let us review Albert Pike once again, as we discover that Freemasonry reveres Typhon as well.

Typhon -- "Osiris was the son of Helios (Phra) the 'divine offspring congenerate with the dawn' and at the same time an incarnation of Kneph or Agathodaemon, the Good Spirit, including all his possible manifestations, either physical or moral. He represented in a familiar form the beneficent aspect of all higher emanations and in him was developed the conception of a Being purely good, so that it became necessary to set up another power as his adversary, called Seth, Baby, or Typhon to account for the injurious influences of Nature." [Pike, op. cit., p. 588, Teachings of the 28th Degree, Knight of the Sun, or Prince Adept].

Once again, we can see the occult, Satanic doctrine that all of Nature is composed of good and evil, black and white, opposites that are equal but opposite. Folks, this is pure Satanism, and Albert Pike has just espoused it, explaining that nature could not allow the all-loving, all-good Osiris to exist without an evil counterpart. In fact, Satanism and Freemasonry both share the same, very revealing, symbol to depict this situation. Quoting from Masonic sources, we provide you with this picture.


In these symbols, the left-hand Pentagram surrounded by the magic circle is Lucifer -- the good god -- with the one point upward and two down; the right-hand Pentagram, again surrounded by the magic circle, is Satan -- the evil god -- with the two points up and the one down. These symbols depict exactly what Albert Pike is talking about in the paragraph above! He says that the evil god, whom he calls Seth or Typhon [Typhon is listed in The Satanic Bible as Infernal Names for Satan] is the adversary of the good god, Osiris; therefore, Pike is saying Osiris is Lucifer , a finding consistent with the rest of the Occult realm.

[Above symbols taken from: Arthur Edward Waite, The Mysteries Of Magic: A Digest of the Writings of Eliphas Levi, Chicago, DeLaurence, Scott, and Company, Inc., 1966 Edition, 1909, p. 223 -- NOTE: Waite is a Freemason author!; also shown in D. Duane Winters, A Search For Light In A Place of Darkness: A Study of Freemasonry , p. 69.]

With this symbol in mind, we find it highly interesting that the Masonic street layout for Washington, D.C., which we cover in great detail in NEWS1081, is laid out in the form of the "evil Pentagram on the right, the symbol for Satan, also known as the Goats Head of Mendes ! Therefore, the Masonic Plan for the United States is one of evil, even in their own minds, not good. We will print out this street layout for you now, but we encourage you to read the full details in NEWS1081.


Pan -- "... Satan is not a black god, but negation of God ... this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may represent evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force ... under the mythologic and horned form of the God Pan; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer ..." [Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 102]

Since The Satanic Bible lists Pan as one of the Infernal Names of Satan, we need to look further into the Occult for more information on Pan. However, we now know that, from Pan came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Serpent, and the Light-bearer, [Lucifer] , because Albert Pike, the #1 Freemason of all history, has just told us!

Time and space constraints prohibit us from going any further into this most interesting, and revealing, study of Freemasonry. We hope and pray that this material, plus the prompting of the Holy Spirit, has revealed to you the truth of the religious nature of Masonry. Truly, this organization is one of the most deceptive in world history. Listen to New Age author, Bill Cooper, describe Freemasonry. Cooper was a member of Demolay during his youth, and later, spent over 20 years in Naval Intelligence. He is most familiar with the organizations which are driving the world into the New World Order and the appearance of its Messiah, the Biblical Antichrist.

"I tell you now that Freemasonry is one of the most wicked and terrible organizations upon this earth. The Masons are major players in the struggle for world domination. The 33rd Degree is split into two. One split contains the core of the Luciferian Illuminati and the other contains those who have no knowledge of it whatsoever." [Behold A Pale Horse , p. 78]

Over the years since I read Cooper's book, I have verified the vast majority of the information contained therein. Even the former Illuminist Witch, Doc Marquis, keeps this book on his shelf. If you want to speak to Doc about the veracity of this information, you may call him at Christians Exposing The Occult , P.O. Box 632436, Nacogdoches, TX 75963-2436, or call him at 409-552-7313. Doc even has many of the super secret books, called Esoteric books, of Freemasonry, including many written in code. Doc verifies Cooper's statement, above.

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posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:25 AM
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I can do this all day - with numerous reports showing who the Masons are and who they serve from the founding father PIKE himself to other Masons who have been able to put the puzzle together and left the lodge.




The 33rd Degree is split into two. One split contains the core of the Luciferian Illuminati and the other contains those who have no knowledge of it whatsoever." [Behold A Pale Horse , p. 78]


So as you can see from the above statement there are 33rd degree Masons that have NO knowledge of the Satanic Illumination while there are others that have been enlightened.

Aleister Crowley was an active 33rd degree Mason (Scottish Rite) and he did not worship the God we know to be in heaven.
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posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:33 AM
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I sure do


For themselves, as Freemasons? Do you mean like soverignty?


If it is opposed to the greater good of ALL society in favour for itself, masonry could be seen as a psychopath, just like a corporation. Corporate drones make the best employees for corporations



posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 03:35 AM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

You didn't answer the question. I asked whether YOU made it clear to your lodge brothers that YOU don't believe in any kind of deity and how do THEY respond? Saying that Masons have no right to judge each other doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.



I think there's a bit of confusion here - you asked that question to Woodcarver. I answered on behalf of the Masons as to our take on the matter. I do Believe in a Supreme Being.


Didn't you previously say the Masons didn't have to believe in God and now you say if they don't they'll get little from Freemasonry and will invariably leave? Invariably?


Masons must believe in God or they won't be accepted. However, once a person is a Mason, we do not ask again as it is of no concern to us.


It's as though this post of yours was written by a different person than the one who wrote the other posts under your screen name.


Yes, the discussions between You, Woodcarver and I have gotten mixed up. Woodcarver was the one who doesn't believe in a Deity and who says it's not important. I say the a Mason must believe in a Deity.


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posted on Feb, 17 2015 @ 04:08 AM
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Did you know that the director of cuttingedge.org (the source of your post) is listed on another Christian site's hall of shame as one of those who have embarrassed Christianity due their hate speech and spreading of misinformation?

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