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What is Freemasonry? One Mason to another...

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:37 AM
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All truth begins with honesty, most have been fooled by lies and what they perceive as truth, one would have you believe that Euclid or even Pythagoras were the great minds behind geometry, well the truth of that matter is that the Tessara was found within tombs of Egypt, predating the Greeks by many thousands of years.
We know the Tessara was the subject of the 47th problem of Euclid.

What I say is that it is very difficult to reconstruct truth built upon complete fictions, it is not possible, most of what you see today are only symbolism's, hijacked for the purposes of a few, and when I say a few, you must refer to the writings of Pike when he clearly spells out who is in the know and who is not in the know, few means a handful, the handful that use the power-base to steer the course for their own selfish purposes.

Another of these lies are to make you think a cubit was some arbitrary measure, from the elbow to the tip of the middle finger, we know now that the circle was squared long ago, when pi-phi squared was encoded in the great pyramid...

We also know the true meaning of the sphinx, but yet, it is still a mystery ?

Yes, perfection will always begin with truth, but until the followers of lies do their homework, they will also remain in darkness and the veil will keep them exactly where they are supposed to be.

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus




Just fine, otherwise they would not have been voted in. Our method of allowing new members is to invite them to several dinners or non-lodge meetings


Do you cater for Vegans or other particular diets



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
a reply to: Saurus

My grandfather was one and I have been given a few chances to join but politely refused. Not sure which degree you are at. It is relevantly easy to reach 32 degree. Beyond that to 33rd degree requires a political connection from what I see.It is at this level you find out what god you are worshipping...... which is Lucifer. My main reason for not wanting to join the ranks of the mason.


How do you know that at 33rd degree they worship Satan?
I know a few 33rd degree masons, and they are far from been politicians.
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: phinubian
...you must refer to the writings of Pike...


Why is Pike relevant to all of Masonry when he only wrote for the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite?

I do not expect you will answer this just as you have failed to address my previous questions. Dishonest posters like yourself are a dime a dozen in this forum.




edit on 16-2-2015 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer but at least he is not a religous hypocrite



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: artistpoet
Do you cater for Vegans or other particular diets


Not typically but our dinners usually have several items to choose from and a vegan could certainly find something they would like.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: Abednego
How do you know that at 33rd degree they worship Satan?


He read a book. Or maybe his minster told him that.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You obviously don't know a single thing about what you follow and if you do, then why ask me a question you already know? I know the answers, but if I do post it here, it is a bitter pill and most will be in disbelief, 33 degrees of knowledge is nothing in comparison to 360 degrees, but more importantly everything below 32 will remain frozen.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: phinubian
You obviously don't know a single thing about what you follow and if you do, then why ask me a question you already know? I know the answers..


You obviously do not know, otherwise you would have posted them. That was the point of me asking.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: phinubian
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You obviously don't know a single thing about what you follow and if you do, then why ask me a question you already know? I know the answers, but if I do post it here, it is a bitter pill and most will be in disbelief, 33 degrees of knowledge is nothing in comparison to 360 degrees, but more importantly everything below 32 will remain frozen.


Please show us. Enlighten us.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Honestly the generic answers you speak of, especially when you refer to a local or state constitution, is something anyone can go look up, you want me to Google that for you ? what I am referring to is not exoteric knowledge or dogma.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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originally posted by: phinubian
We know the Tessara was the subject of the 47th problem of Euclid.

That to me is a perfect example of why masonry can be so many different layers and have so much of a different meaning to different men. The 47th problem of Euclid is mentioned, as are many things, but not directly expanded upon. They are left right were they are until the individual decided to embark on the learning lessons associated with that one tool. And that one tool can be so big and enlightening to the one who takes the time to study it, while other masons, may have not looked hard in that direction.

It sure isn't hidden, but you won't see it unless you look.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: phinubian

So spill it. Impress us with your vast knowledge.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:20 AM
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Also may I ask ... I have no religion but a firm and flexible belief I have arrived at through sharing/learning from others and researching "stuff" and of course my intuition

For example ... I believe in a Creator ... A prime source if you like ... from which sprang the Universe ... but I can not put a name to it ... much like in the Hermetica it states that ... how we can name this Creator for He is all names and things ...

My ideas are unprovable of course ... but I am an honest person as far as I can be and certain ideas ring true ... meaning that I have my own proof ... I am always willing to listen to others ideas in a way of trying to understand them ... But like all I am flawed ...

Would such a person be acceptable to Masonry ... not that I am petitioning to join



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:22 AM
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Your beliefs are similar to mine. You would be fine.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: artistpoet
Also may I ask ... I have no religion but a firm and flexible belief I have arrived at through sharing/learning from others and researching "stuff" and of course my intuition

For example ... I believe in a Creator ... A prime source if you like ... from which sprang the Universe ... but I can not put a name to it ... much like in the Hermetica it states that ... how we can name this Creator for He is all names and things ...

My ideas are unprovable of course ... but I am an honest person as far as I can be and certain ideas ring true ... meaning that I have my own proof ... I am always willing to listen to others ideas in a way of trying to understand them ... But like all I am flawed ...

Would such a person be acceptable to Masonry ... not that I am petitioning to join


Answer is yes. As long as you believe in the existence of a Supreme Being (whatever you name it or think it is). As for people that worship Satan, they are not allow in Masonry due to the fact that Satan is not a godly figure (he was created).



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Sir, I already gave some very good reference material, but at the base level, and not to go too far from the intent of the OP, Freemasonry at it's core, is based upon sufism, one has to find what spiritual basis sufism provides, at it's purist form it has no religion, it has no dogma, remove the all and you arrive back at one, the monad...that is all for now but if you want some more very good reads I can put a list together.

The one true aim of Freemasonry in the ancient mysteries were based in sufism, we see that watered down motto today in European or modern freemasonry, to make men better, well that part is true, but there is much more to it than that in modern applications.

It really is about all in one.

Study the Sphinx and one of the most important answers of the ancient oracles, is of course "Know Thyself"

Unity - all for one - one for all - Unified Sacrifices for one goal, Pike has hit the nail on the head with the ultimate goal, why do people seek answers when the so called greatest mind of modern freemasonry has already told you... doubt it not.

All in One God --- AIO
Of course this is also a play on words. (INRI, AIO, IAO) one in the same.

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Thank you for reply ... that is heartening to know as I have come to respect you here on ATS
I must admit I have been victim to those who smear Masonry but through my inter actions with real Masons I have come to a new understanding as far as I can

Though I understand there is good and bad in all ... It seems the foundation which you speak of is a solid one ...



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

Thank you for explaining
I would say I am anti Satan in that I do not believe there is such a being ... only in those who oppose Reality and truth



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: Saurus

My mother, grandmother and aunt are buried in a Masonic cemetery here in Michigan as they were all of the Order of the Eastern Star. My grandfather was a simple farmer in the 1930's in Arkansas.

Though I am not a Mason, I was always curious as to why my relatives participated, especially since grandfather was so poor. I might mention all his brothers, cousins and both my great-grandparents on both sides....were Masons/Eastern Star members.

I believe it was just what you did when it ran in families...most being poor and of little education due to the need to work to survive. I've not really understood what anyone of my kinfolk could or did gain by their memberships other than the fraternity of it.

??????



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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May I respectfully ask the Masons on this thread to refer me to some information on ... Reading matter which comes from the source of Sufism ... I does not matter if it is Archaic so long at is an English translation ...I would be most grateful ...



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