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South Africa’s untold truths about Post-Apartheid.

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: ufoorbhunter


Tell me something, are the Indian/Asian/Chinese community finding it more difficult too post 1994? Are they discriminated against like the whites?


I am not sure about Indian/Asian/Chinese community, but there is much discrimination coming from back South Africans. It has been in the news for the past few weeks that South African are robbing and killing any foreign or white shop owners they could find in a certain area. Many of those shop owners are both Chinese and Indian.

But they are actually discriminating against anyone that is not South African. A black man who rents a flat on my brothers property was attacked at the train station (they live near the station and the man goes there to dump trash in the trash containers when their garbage bins is full). A man attacked him with a brick, hitting him over the head repeatedly. When the station police can and arrested the attacker, he (the attacker) shouted "That is my wheelbarrow! He is a Botswana man! That wheelbarrow is South African like me!!"

The man sustained massive brain damage.

Also when someone I know worked in the construction, there was many wars against any worker that was not South African. If the workers found out that another builder is from Botswana, Mozambique or Zimbabwe, they would viciously attack that person just because they are a foreigner.

But this is also just on part. The other is that the different black tribes in SA are also very very discriminatory against each other.




posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:08 AM
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I have family in South Africa, my cousins who were born and grew up there are now looking to return to the UK.
I'm not too sure how they would fit in here, having had to listen to a conversation where they serisouly discussed the fact that black people didnt know how to cross roads.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: IndependentOpinion

It's all crazy mate. South Africa is one of them places that always seems to be going on.

Thing is over here they rammed it dowm our throats in the 80's top of the news all the time about South Africa. It was THE main news item in the 80's early 90's. Now they never mention a thing. It's just mental, they never mention a thoing apart from about tat disabled runner guy. As soon as they get what they want, they never mention a thing. Same post end of Kosovo under Serbian rle. They never mention the Serbs being discriminated against by the Muslims in Kosovo, before Serbs gave up it was THE main headline every night.

Our broadcasters a, shall we say a little biased


Great place SA btw. Loved it, the most amazing scenery ever seen, loved your Citi Golfs and the people were great. Just had a few near issues to call it safe for tourists but it was great fun. Next trip will do Joburg zone. Done Cape plus also Windhoek, Swakop in Namibia, all fun and beautiful



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:45 AM
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Just had a few near issues to call it safe for tourists but it was great fun. Next trip will do Joburg zone. Done Cape plus also Windhoek, Swakop in Namibia, all fun and beautiful


The nature in SA has always been the one thing that stayed great!!
Why Joburg of all places? lol. Try spending some time in the Kruger National Park, before its goes even further down hill.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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act that black people didnt know how to cross roads.


There is actually a very interesting discussion behind that problem.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: IndependentOpinion
My ancestor was Alfred Milner (sorry if you're an Africaaner) so always wanted to see what the fuss was all about and want to see that zone,Johannesburg , Kimberley, the mines and all that got Britain and the regime excited 100 years ago.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:14 AM
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So what is the state of all the other black ruled African countries that didn't face apartheid ? It's all garden spots and paradise, right?



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: ufoorbhunter

O thats cool. Hope you enjoy it. And yes, I am an Afrikaner.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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So many people labor under the mistaken belief that South Africa is the ages long homeland of Black tribes---here's a short article setting the record straight for any who care to deny ignorance.
newobserveronline.com...

90 Dutch Calvinists arrived to build Capetown in 1652.
www.colonialvoyage.com...#
edit on 10/06/2013 by Tusks because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: IndependentOpinion
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

O thats cool. Hope you enjoy it. And yes, I am an Afrikaner.


I was looking to move there a few years ago. They wanted £250,000 invested in a business, so maybe buy a farm in a safe zone like winelands.

I was up for it til told that unless you are born in South Africa you can't become President
That put a spanner in the works.

Was going to get a mobile fish n chip van to start off with and do like Sea Point Green Point down to that realy nice bit on the corner can't remeber the name now but kickin restaurants down there. Just googled it Kamps Bay- now that is as goog as it gets


Still thinking of moving there when this job packs up, most people thing I'm crazy but I don't care, I just love that place, lots' of Brits moving to Cape right now, second Uitlanders wave lol



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: abe froman
So what is the state of all the other black ruled African countries that didn't face apartheid ? It's all garden spots and paradise, right?

Is it me??.. or are some of you guys really that clueless of the happenings in post colonial Africa, the proxy wars lasting for 30yrs , the interference and over throw of those who wanted to make a difference of those who insisted that resource rich Africa should be in the hands of Africans, the plundering of said resources by thugs put in place by western or Communist powers, winners like Idi Amin Dada, Mobutu Sese Seko, and a long laundry list of other brutes, a phase that only now within the last 15-20yrs some African nations is just beginning to make some sort of recovery, how self satisfied it must feel to thumb your noses with an air of superiority about those supposedly backwards Africans.
I broached this thread sometime ago to tell a different story maybe it's time to revisit it.

African Skylines..The Other Africa
www.abovetopsecret.com...
As I stated in the opening of that thread that not everything is all grits N gravy and massive challenges looms ahead it is non the less far from being a basket case, thanks in part to trade and not freakin Aid that was being doled out as a carrot and stick to those nations.


www.ted.com...-495739
A decent source of info on the state of African economy is BloombergTV Africa.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: IndependentOpinion

South Africa is a hopeless case. I need say no more. And the US? Not much better years out I fear.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: FatherStacks

its never going to "not be blamed on apartheid," i'm sorry to say. it's been almost 200 years since half this country (america) fought to end slavery, and today, it's being blamed on the ancestors of the people who fought to end slavery. you can't make this # up.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: FatherStacks

its never going to "not be blamed on apartheid," i'm sorry to say. it's been almost 200 years since half this country (america) fought to end slavery, and today, it's being blamed on the ancestors of the people who fought to end slavery. you can't make this # up.

Yeah and Jim crow ,redlining in housing and banking, the write to vote ended officially in the mid sixties and unoffically took longer I am sure alot of folks here were alive during those not soo good ol days.
And yes you can make this # up, most folks talk of the lasting effects of the civil rights era but post slavery as the main culprit ..that's usually a strawman introduction.

As far as the effects of Apartheid.. really?? one generation is enough to fix all.
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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Moving to South Africa??

man, 127 rapes/100,000/yr and 31 murders/100,000/yr---and those are just the ones reported.

Capetown is the worst with 51 murders/100,000/yr. There are 3.7 million in Capetown--that's almost 2000 murders per year just in Capetown.

You have to have bars on your windows and doors in every freaking house or you will be invaded the first night.
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 12:46 PM
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Sedan beehive huts are settlement of iron age.. not by dutch. Kathu Pan a sink hole in South Africa where they found paleolithic tools.. not dutch made tools. There are many archaeology sites in South Africa which dates far earlier than European settlements. So you are saying that you europeans were first settlers in South Africa and others were JUST A NOMADS. Well every man on the surface of this planet comes from nomads, people went where there were food available.
So you are really saying you have more rights to the land than they do ?
NO YOU DON`T !



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

i'm afraid the minority population of caucasians in south africa won't live long enough for one generation. the anc is apparently using them as the excuse for everything.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: undo

The ANC is a political party if the majority of the population including whites are dissatisfied they can vote them out of office, the best government are by their very nature corrupt that's a given, it's it up to you guys assuming you are South African to pull together, romanticizing the Apartheid era and listening to that Nazi above helps no one.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

no, i'm not south african nor a nazi. i just know how the bankers are using racism to further their goals. the anc may be marxist, but marxism is run at the top, by big money, that uses socialism to force smaller businesses out, which they then step in and fill the gap with their own products. there were more catepillar tractors in the soviet union than anywhere else in the world. marxism is nasty stuff and it has a nice firm grip on south africa now.


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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: undo
a reply to: Spider879

i'm afraid the minority population of caucasians in south africa won't live long enough for one generation. the anc is apparently using them as the excuse for everything.


This statement grieves me greatly, as I have at least 2 generations on the go. I will fight to the death to protect them.
What will be, will be. Believe me we will continue as true Caucasoid Africans.
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