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Over 40 Ways Putin’s Russia is Alarmingly Reminiscent of 1930s Nazi Germany

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FormOfTheLord



One more time...
Support your claim that everyone in Ukraine who does not support Russia are Nazis.

Secondly if that's why Crimea left Ukraine, then why would they join a country, Russia, who has more neo Nazis in their government than Ukraine does. Not to mention Russia has the largest block of neo Nazi groups in all of Europe.



Are you sure you want to try and sell the Nazi excuse?



Where do you stand on racist Nazi ideology? Do you support or renounce racism, fascism, and calls for genocide.

Do you support Nazism? Why or why not?
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

In the scoundrelous and conniving spheres of global geopolitics do not expect to be provided right sources for wrong intentions.

Russia and others will act and react to situations based on the readings and predictions of all the scenarios.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I have answered this question previously in other threads.

Nazi ideology is fail.
Racism is fail.
Fascism is fail.
Genocide is fail.

Of course I don't support it... However I reject the notion that all people in Ukraine are Nazis if they don't support the Pro Russian rebels / Russians. You guys have consistently made these blanket claims while completely ignoring the fact its not true.

Trying to paint an entire citizenry as NAZI is just as deluded and wrong as the Nazi's thinking they are the end all be all to existence and anyone else is subhuman.

I find it interesting that people like to accuse me and others of supporting Nazi ideology when they themselves support. Apparently those actions are acceptable if its being done by Russians instead of Germans. Of course then you guys come up with excuses to justify their actions.

Just as the Nazis did at Nuremberg.


Do you support the Nazi ideology? Racism? Genocide? Fascism?
Do you Support the actions of the Russian government?
If you do support the Russian government, how can you claim to not support Nazis and their ideologies when there are Nazis in the Russian Duma?

Or are we back to the position of a group of people do not represent an entire nation?


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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:24 PM
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originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: Xcathdra

In the scoundrelous and conniving spheres of global geopolitics do not expect to be provided right sources for wrong intentions.

Russia and others will act and react to situations based on the readings and predictions of all the scenarios.


So you made a personal claim that you cant support and so the claim is not true - in other words you lied - check.

By the way not only has the US maintained the nmd shield is not directed at Russia, and will not be able to stop Russian nuclear weapons, even the Russians have now stated this.

Russia claims new missile can overcome missile defenses

Russia's SS-27 Makes Bush's Missile Defense A Fantasy

The nmd shield was never directed at Russia and its design confirms that. Trying to invoke it in the Ukraine issue is just sad. Surely you can come up with valid information to make your argument instead of lying about Ukraine.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:44 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
I have answered this question previously in other threads.
Nazi ideology is fail.
Racism is fail.
Fascism is fail.
genocide is fail.
Of course I don't support it... However I reject the notion that all people in Ukraine are Nazis if they don't support the Pro Russian rebels / Russians. You guys have consistently made these blanket claims while completely ignoring the fact its not true.
Trying to paint an entire citizenry as NAZI is just as deluded and wrong as the Nazi's thinking they are the end all be all to existence and anyone else is subhuman.
I find it interesting that people like to accuse me and others of supporting Nazi ideology when they themselves support. Apparently those actions are acceptable if its being done by Russians instead of Germans. Of course then you guys come up with excuses to justify their actions.
Just as the Nazis did at Nuremberg.
Do you support the Nazi ideology? Racism? Genocide? Fascism?

Do you Support the actions of the Russian government?

If you do support the Russian government, how can you claim to not support Nazis and their ideologies when there are Nazis in the Russian Duma?



Or are we back to the position of a group of people do not represent an entire nation?


I am not saying the entire citizenry are NAZI but what I am saying is this is what the war is about, fascism and racism against people with different ethnic backgrounds. Its about racism, and racism wether its on the moon, Russia, or Ukraine its all wrong.
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Could you explain how fascism is a fail, when modern society currently lives under a form of fascism now?

Example, recent bailouts = corporate protectionism = fascism, not capitalism.

Are you saying the American system today is a failure?



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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If someone supports the KKK I would say they are a racist, if someone dresses up in Nazi garb and does Sieg Hails I would say they are racist. If crowds are doing racist chants at ball games I would say that is a racist crowd of people.

If you support racism your a racist plain and simple.

If you allow racists into your government and implement racist laws the governemnt will be seen as a racist one.

If I have a friend who then dresses up as Hitler for halloween and does Sieg Hails, guess what we arent friends anymore.

Same if I had a friend that put on KKK robes thats the end of our friendship.

In the same way if a government starts adopting racism and making it law, that government isnt legit from the perspective of the people. Those who support such racist laws and governance are to be considered racists to. Why because the government reflects the people, and if the people are on board with racism then they are at fault.

Those who arent on board with a racist genocidal agenda are most likely too scared to say anything as they are a minority.

That my fellow Americans may support any racist ideology is beyond unacceptable, its just plain wrong.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:21 PM
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I was what browsing over the internet, looked at RT and somehow opened the Wikipedia article of it.

Look at the irony here...

RT

CNN

Wiki is doing propaganda by mentioning that RT is Russian state propaganda, yet there`s no mention of the same on the CNN page about them being US propaganda.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:29 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra




By the way not only has the US maintained the nmd shield is not directed at Russia


US can maintain any logic it wants. However, it would be stupid for Russia, China and others to accept that logic and go complacent. Russia already has paid a lot in being complacent since Gorby came to power in mid 1980s. Finally, Putin is pushing back the pressure coming from the western direction.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:31 PM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I am not saying the entire citizenry are NAZI but what I am saying is this is what the war is about, fascism and racism against people with different ethnic backgrounds. Its about racism, and racism wether its on the moon, Russia, or Ukraine its all wrong.


Thats the problem... Russia never provided its "evidence" it used to justify its invasion of Ukraine. Russia made many claims about Ethnic Russians being attacked yet every single time the UN asked for evidence Russia never provided any. The UNHCR investigations have shown no support for the Russian claims.

To tie it back into the op -

Russians use of the phrase "to protect ethnic Russians" was the EXACT terminology used by Hitler. Hitler justified his invasions an annexations as protecting "ethnic Germans".

As we know from history, Hitler was lying. In another parallel, there is no evidence to support Russians claims either.


If you are against these types of issues, then you must be against it everywhere - including Russia.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: Xcathdra

Could you explain how fascism is a fail, when modern society currently lives under a form of fascism now?

Example, recent bailouts = corporate protectionism = fascism, not capitalism.

Are you saying the American system today is a failure?



Bailouts are not a form of fascism. They are a form of corporate welfare and could be described better as socialism. A true free market economy will eat its own kids if they fail - survival of the fittest. When we moved into the realm of to big to fail we moved into the arena of socialism. The current policies of the Obama administration are more inline with socialism than free market.

The socialism style system in the US is a failure and will continue to be a failure. When the government intentionally makes the people dependent on the government for basic needs, it sets the people up to be completely and totally controlled by the government.

in this area all we need to do is look at the setup used in the former soviet union to see how this type of system cannot work.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

So do you support the government / groups in Russia who do what you just described and condemned??
I ask because evidence has been presented that russia has the same issues yet you seem to only attribute those issues to countries other than Russia.

Are you saying Russia does not have these issues?



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
I was what browsing over the internet, looked at RT and somehow opened the Wikipedia article of it.

Look at the irony here...

RT

CNN

Wiki is doing propaganda by mentioning that RT is Russian state propaganda, yet there`s no mention of the same on the CNN page about them being US propaganda.


and on the Russian version of wikipedia they edited the entry for MH17 stating it was Ukraine who shot it down. In that case the editing was traced back to the Russian government. Who made the changes in the wikipedia thread?

Trust but verify.
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: victor7

Aside from this I will not respond to your posts until you provide evidence of your claim that NATO wanted an NMD system in Ukraine or you admit its not true.

I am done with the false claims followed by efforts to get beyond the false claim.

source link please that supports your claim NATO wanted to put an NMD system in Ukraine..



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FormOfTheLord
So do you support the government / groups in Russia who do what you just described and condemned??

I ask because evidence has been presented that russia has the same issues yet you seem to only attribute those issues to countries other than Russia.



Are you saying Russia does not have these issues?


Check this out dude I have said all racism wherever it may be including in Russia US or even on the moon it needs to be outed and people should stand against it not for it.

As to talking about it Ukraine, this is where a war is being fought over racism and a Nazi ideology. Thats what the war is over and nothing other than that. They want an ethnic white Ukraine and started passing racist laws then came the war. If there were no racist laws being passed and calls for Russian genocide wernt being made no one would have ever called them fascists and none of this would be happening.

As to talking about Ukraine its where people are being self proclaimed Nazis and are working towards ethnic cleansing of all Russians in Ukraine for example shooting ballistic missles into cities where Russians live is genocide, just use your brian and think about what your supporting.

You cant support those doing genocide and then say you dont support genocide.

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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: FormOfTheLord



Then you need to refute the claims and provide sources when you do.



Considering your position you should be able to do this with no problem.





I refute hatred of my fellow human beings, and those who would attempt to further divide and cause more strife on the planet.


I'm glad to read a comment like this on this forum!


Of course, it's not people like OP who'll go to fight the war they are promoting through continuous propaganda, in support of their neonazi brothers.



...oh and I think I've found an actual Hitler:


(Yatsenyuk, with those two gorillas from Svoboda and Fatherland)
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posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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Russia should stop documenting the crimes on the Donbass people and start to use the tactical nukes on the Nazi battalions.

One photograph I saw of few Azov fighters who were KIA and one thing stood out.............they all looked like "dark haired dark eyed" ugly janitors or laborers from Portugal or Spain i.e. in Hitler's books, they would have not even come near to joining the Nazi clubs. These outcasts, rejects and criminals of the society finally found some group to be affiliated with.

In other words, stupid "lost minded" idiots in Ukraine are being used as "raw meat" to be grinded and fried up in the battlefields.

There are rumors that Nazi battalions are being intentionally thrown by Ukes Army into scenarios where they get trapped and torn apart.

On the other hand there are corrupt Generals and Politicians in Kiev who have become very rich from this war and more "stupid raw meat" comes in their direction.........the better it is for their overseas bank accounts.



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:19 PM
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Instead, try to debunk that when Kiev doesn`t have any weapons to fight anymore...

"No resources left for offensive operations"--Poroshenko Advisor Biryukov

Who`s going to make sure the fighting can continue by delivering weapons...

Leading Ukrainian Nazi Will Visit Washington Next Week Seeking Weapons

And you may also read up on...

Evidence About the Connection Between the Ukrainian Coup and Crimea’s Breakaway

Have fun with trying to twist this stuff !



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: victor7
Russia should stop documenting the crimes on the Donbass people and start to use the tactical nukes on the Nazi battalions.

One photograph I saw of few Azov fighters who were KIA and one thing stood out.............they all looked like "dark haired dark eyed" ugly janitors or laborers from Portugal or Spain i.e. in Hitler's books, they would have not even come near to joining the Nazi clubs. These outcasts, rejects and criminals of the society finally found some group to be affiliated with.

In other words, stupid "lost minded" idiots in Ukraine are being used as "raw meat" to be grinded and fried up in the battlefields.

There are rumors that Nazi battalions are being intentionally thrown by Ukes Army into scenarios where they get trapped and torn apart.

On the other hand there are corrupt Generals and Politicians in Kiev who have become very rich from this war and more "stupid raw meat" comes in their direction.........the better it is for their overseas bank accounts.


Not very brilliant I might say... Fortunately Putin will not be reading your comment. Nobody who isn't insane wants nukes to be used in any war...



posted on Feb, 16 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: Echtelion

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord


originally posted by: Xcathdra

a reply to: FormOfTheLord
Then you need to refute the claims and provide sources when you do.

Considering your position you should be able to do this with no problem.


I refute hatred of my fellow human beings, and those who would attempt to further divide and cause more strife on the planet.




I'm glad to read a comment like this on this forum!




Of course, it's not people like OP who'll go to fight the war they are promoting through continuous propaganda, in support of their neonazi brothers.


...oh and I think I've found an actual Hitler:

Nice pic, talk about a smoking gun!
How could anyone so stupid as to support a racist Nazi ideology is beyond me, if Americans knew we were supporting the Nazi racist side of the confrontation perhaps there would be some big changes here at home as well. How is this not in our media at all? White washing racism is wrong and needs to be called out. We fought the Nazis once we may need to do it again. Who knows they may be embedded in our own government as well, there is no action which doesnt have a cause to it, and the denial of a racist Nazi agenda of genocide in the Ukraine has a purpose. Follow the money and those who back the Nazi ideology, see where they are and call them out on it.

America, EU Russia, and every country on earth needs to wake up, and clean house of all racism and those who support it.
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