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And why do you think that beliefs are entirely unsupportable by evidence?
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Why would these people of olde ever have a thought about giant lizards before any bones were discovered ? Why would there have been any people saying I don't believe giant lizards ever roamed the earth when nobody was saying they did ? That's like me saying I don't believe there are twenty foot tall purple sun flowers. Who says there are?
Oh and for the record people were finding dinosaur bones for centuries before they ever showed up in the British Museum. It's likely what led to a belief in dragons.
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
Are you going to continue speaking for tangerine?
originally posted by: PrivilegedPeasant
John Podesta reflected on his latest White House stint Friday, listing his favorite moments and biggest regrets from the past year. Chief among them: depriving the American people of the truth about UFOs.
originally posted by: St Udio
originally posted by: PrivilegedPeasant
John Podesta reflected on his latest White House stint Friday, listing his favorite moments and biggest regrets from the past year. Chief among them: depriving the American people of the truth about UFOs.
I see most everyone takes the Podesta statement as meaning he regrets not Revealing the factual reality of UFOs... or 'Disclosure'...
I still hold that Podesta might have regrets about keeping the public mis-informed with the false notion of Alien lifeforms interaction with modern governments...
see, only John knows the real meaning of his statement.... maybe he will write a memoir to sell the fickle public
originally posted by: 111DPKING111
a reply to: Tangerine
Maybe he has me totally fooled, but I think you are giving Podesta way too much credit. He would be the dull instrument in the shed...
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
What I'm saying is this. If someone says God or aliens don't exist that is their belief.
Yet if someone says prove it they will invariably say you can't prove a negative which is basically saying they believe something that cannot be proven. Simple.
No, if someone says aliens exist or aliens do not exist, that is a claim of fact. Fact is based on testable evidence only and the onus is on the person making the claim of fact to cite the testable evidence making their claim fact.
originally posted by: St Udio
originally posted by: PrivilegedPeasant
John Podesta reflected on his latest White House stint Friday, listing his favorite moments and biggest regrets from the past year. Chief among them: depriving the American people of the truth about UFOs.
I see most everyone takes the Podesta statement as meaning he regrets not Revealing the factual reality of UFOs... or 'Disclosure'...
I still hold that Podesta might have regrets about keeping the public mis-informed with the false notion of Alien lifeforms interaction with modern governments...
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: St Udio
originally posted by: PrivilegedPeasant
John Podesta reflected on his latest White House stint Friday, listing his favorite moments and biggest regrets from the past year. Chief among them: depriving the American people of the truth about UFOs.
I see most everyone takes the Podesta statement as meaning he regrets not Revealing the factual reality of UFOs... or 'Disclosure'...
I still hold that Podesta might have regrets about keeping the public mis-informed with the false notion of Alien lifeforms interaction with modern governments...
see, only John knows the real meaning of his statement.... maybe he will write a memoir to sell the fickle public
I'm one of the people who believes that the government (or some faction of the government) wants the public to believe that extraterrestrials visit earth and abduct people. Podesta's post falls in line with that: he insinuates without stating definitively. Nothing is released conveniently encouraging the public to believe extraterrestrials exist and abduct people. This is typical of black ops disinformation techniques.
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Well that only means that people go around saying things they don't quite believe in order to sound authoritative and are in fact insincere. If I say something you can damn well be sure I believe it. That is a fact.
What is yours? A statement of fact or a belief?
And why do you think that beliefs are entirely unsupportable by evidence? And last aren't you just shuffling semantics around to suit your needs in this argument?
a reply to: Tangerine
originally posted by: debonkers
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: St Udio
originally posted by: PrivilegedPeasant
John Podesta reflected on his latest White House stint Friday, listing his favorite moments and biggest regrets from the past year. Chief among them: depriving the American people of the truth about UFOs.
I see most everyone takes the Podesta statement as meaning he regrets not Revealing the factual reality of UFOs... or 'Disclosure'...
I still hold that Podesta might have regrets about keeping the public mis-informed with the false notion of Alien lifeforms interaction with modern governments...
see, only John knows the real meaning of his statement.... maybe he will write a memoir to sell the fickle public
I'm one of the people who believes that the government (or some faction of the government) wants the public to believe that extraterrestrials visit earth and abduct people. Podesta's post falls in line with that: he insinuates without stating definitively. Nothing is released conveniently encouraging the public to believe extraterrestrials exist and abduct people. This is typical of black ops disinformation techniques.
Actually, the ridiculous theory you just posted is typical of black ops disinformation techniques.
originally posted by: debonkers
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
What I'm saying is this. If someone says God or aliens don't exist that is their belief.
Yet if someone says prove it they will invariably say you can't prove a negative which is basically saying they believe something that cannot be proven. Simple.
No, if someone says aliens exist or aliens do not exist, that is a claim of fact. Fact is based on testable evidence only and the onus is on the person making the claim of fact to cite the testable evidence making their claim fact.
You've tried to push this load of rubbish quite often, tangerine, but it is not the least bit true. Let's make this clear.
A fact is something that is true. Simple as that.
No one has to prove it to you for it to be a fact. No "testable evidence" must be cited, as you continually bleat.
All your whining demands that you must have proof before it is a fact is petulant nonsense.
Merriam-Webster definition of Fact:
1. The quality of being actual.
2. Something that actually exists.
I don't see any mention of satisfying the subjective evidentiary demands of anonymous internet trolls as a prerequisite.
There is no "onus", and no burden of proof. You know this, or you should know this, because I educated you on this very point last month.
A fact doesn't require universal consensus, or any consensus, for that matter. It simply must be true.
And if a poster says that alien contact is happening and has been happening, that is a fact because it is true.
Your satisfaction is completely irrelevant to alien contact being a matter of fact. Your opinion has no bearing whatsoever. Alien contact is a fact because it is true, some people know that, and some people don't.
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: ZetaRediculian
Are you going to continue speaking for tangerine? Let the gentleman handle his own end of the conversation. I didn't see where he asked you to speak for him or explain what he means. It seems he does an excellent job of it himself.