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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: ISawItFirst
Dodged again. Go up two posts to my earlier reply. The book you are writing isn't cutting it.
--What about Kamikazie style, 400 miles per hour, full of fuel and intent on doing as much damage as possible?
--hurricane winds at 200 mph same as 400 mph Jumbo Jets?
--Is there another speed for things to fall?
originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: ISawItFirst
Simple. The ESB had interior load bearing walls that offered up a lot of resistance to the B-25. Had the Towers had a similar construction, it would have kept either of the airliners from ripping all the way through the buildings as they did.
Sokolov (Air Marshal, in charge of the country's air defence) was dismissed days after 19-year-old Mathias Rust landed his Cessna light aircraft in the square in May 1987. Although Soviet radars and interceptors tracked Rust's flight from Finland, air forces took no action.
Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev was enraged over the incident and fired Sokolov along with dozens of other defense officials.
originally posted by: stolencar18
I have a question...Maybe I missed the information there was a LOT). I'm not a truther - but I'm open minded. Let's say that someone did swap the planes, etc, and land the real commercial planes.
What happened to the passengers on those planes?
originally posted by: intrptr
Better still, whats to be gained by "swapping planes"? Leaving behind live witnesses isn't a good idea, you have to kill the passengers then kill the killers, make the planes disappear, have the remote drone pilots killed, ad infinitum.
Planning plane swaps on 911 is fraught with potential problems during the operation and leaves trails of breadcrumbs.
The notion of such a stupid idea is the most telling.
What I am wondering is what makes those inner load bearing walls different from the WTC outer load bearing walls?
Plausibility doesn't matter, let alone probability. The intelligence agencies and military planners have a lot of ways to get things done and to keep people quiet about doing them.
originally posted by: ipsedixit
a reply to: intrptr
When you control law enforcement and have a population as stupid as the mainstream in America, you can try any stupid idea at all and get away with it and that was what happened on 9/11.
Stupidity is no bar to success when trying to put one over on the mass of the American public. I really believe it literally does not matter what one chooses to do to the American public, as long as it is dressed up as a security issue by the White House.
Plausibility doesn't matter, let alone probability. The intelligence agencies and military planners have a lot of ways to get things done and to keep people quiet about doing them.
... in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X
originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: ISawItFirst
What I am wondering is what makes those inner load bearing walls different from the WTC outer load bearing walls?
ESB has a latticework of steel beams throughout.
WTC only had this in the inner core.
The exterior could not stand 110 stories tall without being braced.
The bracing came from light weight floor trusses attached to the inner core.
The inner core could not stand 110 stories tall without being braced either.
Again the floor trusses braced the inner core.
ESB steel work could stand with no bracing at all.
Check construction websites.
They all say that no sky scraper will ever be constructed using the same method as WTC again.
We learn from our mistakes.