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I don't see him mentioning U.S foreign policy at all in this thread.
Unless they're pro-EU Ukrainians, of course. Then they are nazis, right?
But Russia does? Funny how that works.
originally posted by: LittleByLittle
Another Xcathdra thread pushing US foreign policy on ATS blaming Russia for everything wrong in Ukraine and that US is the nice guys and and as always avoiding the fact that NGO:s sponsored by US was the ones who created the puppet state.
I wonder how any US citizen would feel if the Chinese thru NGO:s created an puppet government in the US that implemented systems that would remove their freedoms and belongings. And when states within US would not allow this and want to leave, US the puppet regime would start a civil war to keep the states in US, against the will of the people in those states.
People have locally a right to choose by majority where they want to belong and what they want to belong to. US have no right to intervene against peoples choice just because it is against their agenda.
Without him the Putinistas wouldn't have anything interesting to talk about.
originally posted by: LittleByLittle
a reply to: dragonridr
How can people say US wants to spread democracy? The kind of democracy that are bought by corporate banking interests and using propaganda. Being a debt slave under the IMF/FED while the robber barons in the form of corporations take everything of value thru ponzi schemes?
More politicians controlled by the banking cartel doing what they tell them not what the people want them to do. Democracy like in Greece where corrupt politicians sell out their country to the banking mafia and when the people get real politicians that are of the people, the system push hard for the politicians to cave in to the greed of those that control the supply of money.
The owners of US and the politicians only wants democracy if the people choose the democracy that fits their agenda.
And Russia is also controlled by a power pyramid of more or less corrupt people so they are not that much better. The only difference is that the western version of a power pyramid have become so crazy that they do not allow anyone to not be under their control.
At least India has it also...
Smerch 9K58 MBRL Multiple rocket launcher 62 Russia 300 mm multiple rocket launch system.
Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative who was Deputy Secretary of Defense under the Bush regime, declared:
Well one would think that now wouldn't they, but as you can see in many threads on Ukraine that isn't the case.
originally posted by: IPFreely101
a reply to: Xcathdra
Ehm, isn't the fact that Putin is a player in these peace talks enough indication that Russia is involved in the war?
"ooh, Putin was lying"
Shocker! All parties are lying.
A bit dim this.
Why do you think Wolfowitz should not be quoted? Do you find it embarrassing that he is quoted?
What are your reasons for believing that he did not speak for the the entire government?
Wolfowitz called for Saddam’s overthrow during the 1991 Gulf War and was the first senior official to advise Bush, days after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, to seek regime change in Iraq.
Do you believe he was not supported by other members of the Bush administration?
Apparently the OP of this thread didn't think of it either.
Off course Russia is involved, just like the West is involved. Completely obvious. Leave it to the OP to make this situation about Putin lying.
A very childish and naive outlook.