a reply to: nataylor
Yes, I have explained this and this is the problem when people come onto the end of a thread without reading the thread. The same questions you're
asking have been asked and answered. Sadly, you and others are just obfuscating because you can't explain why this would be prohibited.
What would prevent Alice or Bob from detecting a signal on one channel that different relative to the other two channels?
You guys are just asking the same nonsense over and over again because you can't tell me why this would be prohibited. So you say, define this
exactly or tell me this precisely. It's just gobbledy gook because you can't answer the question as to why this would be prohibited.
Alice isn't comparing her measurement with Bob to check for correlations. They already know the particle pairs are correlated beforehand.
One of the guys on this thread posted a image from an article that supports what I'm saying.
In contrast, if the sent and retained signals are truly entangled, they will be simultaneously strongly correlated in both arrival time and
frequency. The much stronger initial correlation of the entangled beams allows reflected photons to be distinguished from background photons with a
much higher signal to noise when they are “decoded” by recombining them with the retained signal.
This is an article about Quantum illumination but it illustrates my point.
Now it just comes down to the basics when it comes to what we know about entanglement and what I have listed over and over again in published papers
When you have entangled photons, and you send one to Bob and Alice retains the other one, YOU HAVE AN ENTANGLED SIGNAL THAT WILL BE STRONGLY
CORRELATED IN ARRIVAL TIME AND FREQUENCY.
You will also have stronger signal to noise.
Bob and Alice check to make sure ALL THREE CHANNELS ARE STRONGLY CORRELATED IN ARRIVAL TIME AND FREQUENCY.
Bob and Alice are not sending any information faster than light on one channel or on spin. This is what you guys keep debating like a broken
Alice and Bob now have a 3 channel system where each channel contains an entangled signal that's strongly correlated in arrival time, frequency and
signal to noise.
Each of these channels can send information faster than light. The information just isn't useful because it's random. We easily encode useful
information on information that's not useful as I have illustrated numerous times.
Now, you have 3 channels each with a strong correlation of the entangled signal. This is 111.
When you break entanglement on one channel, you no longer have a strongly correlated signal in arrival time, frequency and signal to noise. The
channel where Bob or Alice choose to break entanglement will be different relative to the other channels where entanglement isn't broken and there's
still a strongly correlated signal.
So Alice has the option of breaking entanglement on any one of the 3 channels and changing the signal from 111 in 3 channels to 011, 101 or 110.
She's sending Bob information faster than light.
You guys can't say why this would be prohibited. If Alice measures a photon on one channel, Bob will no longer have a strongly correlated system in
that channel just more random noise. It then boils down to that Sesame Street game, which one of these things is not like the other. Which signal is
no longer strongly correlated like the other two signals in the multi information channel set up.
There's no reason why this would be prohibited and that's why you guys keep obfuscating.
In fact, you will eventually be able to send information backwards in time. As Einstein tells us, the past, present and future are persistent
illusions. All of time and space exist simultaneously. Einstein said:
Since there exists in this four dimensional structure [space-time] no longer any sections which represent "now" objectively, the concepts of
happening and becoming are indeed not completely suspended, but yet complicated. It appears therefore more natural to think of physical reality as a
four dimensional existence, instead of, as hitherto, the evolution of a three dimensional existence.
Very profound stuff.
Happening and becoming are just an illusion of our 3 dimensional perception but "reality" is really a 4 dimensional whole where the difference
between past, present and future are just an illusion.
So things like decoherence and the speed of light lock us into a prison of our universe or the illusion of our 3 dimensional perception of now. When
you can transmit information from A to B faster than light then information is no longer trapped in the prison of our perception.
Say if this is set up in 2020, a person from 2025 would be able to send information to 2020. So a person in 2025 could send information to themselves
in 2020. If you send the lottery numbers, yourself from 2020 will be rich but not you unless there's a quantum internet with Pay Pal, then yourself
from 2020 could send you 2 million of the 10 million dollar jackpot. I could see a day when people Skype with themselves because this in no way
violates causality because information isn't traveling through intervening space between points A and B.