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What about that cycle is supposed to appeal to me?
You have no idea how bored I am.
originally posted by: Eunuchorn
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What if your parent gave you one of those fitting block tests as a kid and you try to put the square peg into the round hole. Would it be fair for your parent to ground you for life based on that one mistake?
Guidance waits for us to "grow up" to be taught. Children don't "fail" at anything… they're children.
The teacher speaks with a still small voice, difficult to hear above the din of modern life. Its there, though.
Heres an example. You open a door for someone just… because you know you should.
Thats the knowing what is right to do in that moment.
Knowing you should do that and don't do it is not the path. The path of life. Your life.
its really that simple. Doing what you have been given to know is right to do in the moment…
Sorry, I'm not doing a good job of explaining it, I am distracted…
I think your explanation is on the right track. The key to salvation is selflessness, not faith. Even if its something as minor as holding open a door for someone else.
Because this thread deals with re-incarnation.. Did Y'all know that suicide wasn't declared a "Mortal Sin" until the year 340? I read about Chris†ianity and Buddhism, do these religions differ as what to envision at the time of "passing"? Something , oh, I don't know, like imagining a 'wormhole' vs. 'walk towards the Light'? hmmm.
If One fears "death" then when the time comes for "passing" the fearful "may" get 'stuck' (Stuck on the wheel of incarnation/re-incarnation..) Remember the thread a few days ago, about the Buddhist Monk that was 'petrified' Yet the other Monks said that this Monk had achieved Buddhism? He was "here" and 'there', He had melded back to "whence He came.." Where We ALL return back, some quicker than the other...
46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"
Enlightenment
19 This is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent to him priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 And he confessed and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21 They asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” And he said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 Then they said to him, “Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, ‘MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,’ as Isaiah the prophet said.” 24 Now they had been sent from the Pharisees. 25 They asked him, and said to him, “Why then are you baptizing, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 John answered them saying, “I baptize in water, but among you stands One whom you do not know. 27 “It is He who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28 These things took place in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Eunuchorn
What about that cycle is supposed to appeal to me?
Take heart, you are in the world and it knows you not. You are naturally not inclined like others to be a part of it all, to be ambitious, successful, having lots of money and stuff doesn't appeal to you. The world and everyone in it rejects you for not going along with the flow…
If you have failed to measure up to the world you are one of the blessed. Don't let that get you down, embrace that.
Thats a good thing. Shed all that worry and weight that others put on you, just be you.
Now all you have to do is what you have been given to know is right in the next moment. You already know this by the way. Not because I'm saying that but because the same thing is in you, guiding you away from the worlds appeal.
You can let go of the guilt of 'not measuring up' to 'world standards' now.
Really hard to do, eh?
originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: windword
(Now, here we should note that Joshua and Jesus are exactly the same names. )
I do not understand this as you understand it and it may be in the source that you and I have read.
According to Et Cepher (Hebrew manuscripts) the name of your Joshua is the high priest Yahusha whereas the name of the Branch (Jesus) is also Yahusha but Yahusha the Branch is not known till well over 500 years after Jeremiah's prophecy. The thing which I refer is that at this time of prophecy the Branch is the personage called the Word and already exists as the celestial personage called the Begotten of the Spirit. As the Word became conceived by the Spirit into the flesh called Yahusha, His likeness (Spirit) which already existed as the Word was still in existence called the Word.
In other words the celestial "Word" only changed substance of image (celestial to terrestrial). The Word did not change the celestial likeness which is unchangeable. The "Word" could not have changed spirit likeness from celestial to terrestrial because the likeness is never changing. To have re incarnation you must have rebirth of both substances of image and likeness from one substance to another substance. The flesh can change substance with death of the substance or removal of the life which is the spirit. Are you then saying that "The Word" died?
h. The Angel of the Lord, Revealer of God
Philo describes the Logos as the revealer of God symbolized in the Scripture (Gen. 31:13; 16:8; etc) by an angel of the Lord (Somn. 1.228-239; Cher. 1-3). The Logos is the first-born and the eldest and chief of the angels.
i. Multi-Named Archetype
Philo's Logos has many names (Conf. 146). Philo identifies his Logos with Wisdom of Proverbs 8:22 (Ebr. 31). Moreover, Moses, according to Philo called this Wisdom "Beginning," "Image," "Sight of God." And his personal wisdom is an imitation of the archetypal Divine Wisdom. All terrestrial wisdom and virtue are but copies and representations of the heavenly Logos (LA 1.43, 45-46).
Our society and culture let us down.. But we can create better.
The inherent problem that many Christians have the scriptures in Zachariah applying to Jesus Christ, whether it be through Joshua, The High Priest, or through The Angel of the Lord, is that they BOTH are created beings, and LESS THAN God almighty.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: windword
I meant that the Levitical High Priest Joshua typified Jesus as the Melkhitzedekian High Priest. Thats really all I care to say.