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originally posted by: scattergun
Giving weapons to The Ukrainians will only give us more Dead Ukrainians.. Drop a UN force in .Create buffer zone. Stop the shelling and murder of civilians.. and let the people vote. They need a timeout. Both sides will continue to push until separated.
Send food not ammo.
At best we are looking at Cube Missile crisis II before our eyes now.
originally posted by: naftaland
This comment above is Wise. In all of this Putin rhetoric, what has been overlooked is that the Ukrainian people have been pushed too hard. More weapons means an expanded Draft to intolerably include the women. Compromising the basic needs of the Ukrainian civilian population for the glories of this war and posturing to Putin invites a Second Revolution.
originally posted by: naftaland
The West and Kiev demand Eastern Ukraine be brought back under Kiev's control. The reality is that the majority of Ukrainian people have a very different opinion on if they should be injured or killed, or to do the same to a rebel or Russian, to gain control of a place where they do not live or visit, for the glory of Kiev. The longer this war goes on, the more likely the existing Ukrainian government will be overthrown. In such an event, a UN Peacekeeping force would be required. Better send them in now rather than later.
originally posted by: PizzaAnyday505
originally posted by: Xcathdra
BRICS wont be formidable until at least 2050 and that's only if they are lucky.
Wishful thinking friend
You do know China is BRICs too
originally posted by: stirling
A godamn treaty was signed in Budapest....That's why we are involved as signatory to that treaty...
It GUARANTEED Ukraines sovereignty...
We also would not be at this point had one side not supplies arms, support and personnel.
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Remember that invention called Kosovo? Good old USA bombing Serbia over the rights of a muslim minority that 'seemingly' wanted self determination. Wher is the right of eastern Ukranians who by the look of things also want self determination?
Well, yes. America struggling to show leadership, the world becoming more and more chaotic.
May be not demise, but in current state it is unsuitable to be the one and only leader.
Did Budapest memorandum mention protecting Ukraine from US sponsored coups and revolutions to install puppets
Yes, and Russian ones. The situation in Eastern Ukraine is the result of Russian actions, not American ones.
originally posted by: Xcathdra
originally posted by: Fermy
a reply to: yuppa
This is the only response you get for such trivial, pointless nonsense.
Was this directed at him or were you referring to your self?
How about engaging the facts? If he is so wrong then surely you can support your position with facts and sources right?
I'm serious, do they really asking from the young students to count how many times people clap ?