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Why God chose a virgin to became flesh?

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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:20 AM
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Why God chose a virgin to became flesh? It was necessary for her to be virgin or it is just a theological motivation?
It was just to fulfill a prophecy?

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Or there is something else?
Why it has to be Mary?, and no other virgin?




posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

Mary was about to marry Joseph, who was of David lineage, i.e. royal line of blood, but since Jesus was born out of a Virgin - he was not of David's house and blood. Hence not a Messiah. Had Joseph been father of Jesus, things could've been different.

... hm... things can be more complicated than this. Since writing this, I started to double check and wow is this a complicated story depending which version of (Luke or Matthew) one is considering - and if one should take into account the Jewish tradition of showing only male lineage ... Better thus left untouched.
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

A lot of ancient Gods were born from a Virgin, Krishna, Buddha, the Quaran has several Virgin births, Mithra, too many to list.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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Because it makes the story even more "miraculous", plus God doesn't have a penis and they had to sell Jesus as the Son of God.

There have also been other gods born from virgins, Christianity is a melding of pagan and Jewish mythology used as a way to keep the Roman empire afloat.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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The ultimate sacrifice had to be completely clean of any blemish one. Two God once again proving the unproveable everythingthe creator does is perfect and unproveable by science i know all the doubters will come and link a science article stating that its proven in science but then again how many times has science been wrong...???a reply to: Abednego



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: deckdel

If im not mistaken Mary is also from the house of David...

Second line....
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

From what i gather, the Messiah had to be born of a virgin and be a descendent in David's line...Therefore, Mary was chosen because she was believed to be a virgin and a descendent of David...

That said, i'd say it is likely that people shaped Jesus' history to fit with some of the prophecies... Apparently, there were some which Jesus never fulfilled either. Depending on the prophecies and contexts, Jesus may not have been considered a Messiah at all...indeed, it is a factor as to why there was (and still is) rejection of his claims among the Jewish communities. I guess it's just a matter of faith...

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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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I always thought Virgin was actually translated as "Pure"...

Which is a broad term that could easily be attributed to Virginity...
But could also mean "the perfect candidate" in terms of piety and grace to birth the Messiah.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: Abednego

Mary was about to marry Joseph, who was of David lineage, i.e. royal line of blood, but since Jesus was born out of a Virgin - he was not of David's house and blood. Hence not a Messiah. Had Joseph been father of Jesus, things could've been different.

... hm... things can be more complicated than this. Since writing this, I started to double check and wow is this a complicated story depending which version of (Luke or Matthew) one is considering - and if one should take into account the Jewish tradition of showing only male lineage ... Better thus left untouched.

Mary's lineage is traced back to David too. See the Gospel of Luke.
That's material for another thread.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:43 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Because it makes the story even more "miraculous", plus God doesn't have a penis and they had to sell Jesus as the Son of God.

There have also been other gods born from virgins, Christianity is a melding of pagan and Jewish mythology used as a way to keep the Roman empire afloat.

A non-virgin woman getting pregnant by herself is still a miracle.
God doesn't have a penis? You are saying that God is a female entity? What about the duality of God?



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:45 AM
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Many different ancient cultures used “Mary” or a derivative of that name is the name of their goddess who bore god. This was also the ritual name of the temple harlots of the time who would have sex with those who made offerings to the temple in exchange for a symbolic union with the goddess, whom they were said to represent, just as the priest is the direct representative of God in Christian cosmology. All temple priestesses were considered to be “virgins” despite their many sex partners because the laity were not having sex with the woman, but rather with the Goddess.


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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
I always thought Virgin was actually translated as "Pure"...

Which is a broad term that could easily be attributed to Virginity...
But could also mean "the perfect candidate" in terms of piety and grace to birth the Messiah.


Pure as in sinless? According the scriptures we carry the original sin. How is that God use a sinner to be the mother of His only son?
In which way she is the perfect candidate?



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

Well, lots of "saviors" have been born from a virgin, Jesus wasn't the only one, only the latest.

In my opinion it symbolizes how life began. How is the first life form created without a father to fertilize an egg? How did the first life-form become the "first" without parents? Well, God's Spirit was "implanted" into a virgin body. Since this was the first life-form, it has no biological father, but it was "born" from the "virgin" Mother Earth. It's allegory for how life began.

It's all symbolism, not literal history.
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:51 AM
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Why God chose a virgin to became flesh? It was necessary for her to be virgin or it is just a theological motivation? It was just to fulfill a prophecy?


if you had the possibility, would you get a new car or a second hand one?



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: Wifibrains
a reply to: Abednego


Many different ancient cultures used “Mary” or a derivative of that name is the name of their goddess who bore god. This was also the ritual name of the temple harlots of the time who would have sex with those who made offerings to the temple in exchange for a symbolic union with the goddess, whom they were said to represent, just as the priest is the direct representative of God in Christian cosmology. All temple priestesses were considered to be “virgins” despite their many sex partners because the laity were not having sex with the woman, but rather with the Goddess.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Those are quite profound words in there. I know exactly what you mean.
"The angel of God", "the messenger of God", "the spirit of God" they may mean something more.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: IShotMyLastMuse


Why God chose a virgin to became flesh? It was necessary for her to be virgin or it is just a theological motivation? It was just to fulfill a prophecy?


if you had the possibility, would you get a new car or a second hand one?

That's depend on which car we are talking. Please stay on the subject.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

When the ritual is done in alignment all those things "come in to play"



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Abednego

Well, lots of "saviors" have been born from a virgin, Jesus wasn't the only one, only the latest.

In my opinion it symbolizes how life began. How is the first life form created without a father to fertilize an egg? How did the first life-form become the "first" without parents? Well, God's Spirit was "implanted" into a virgin body. Since this was the first life-form, it has no biological father, but it was "born" from the "virgin" Mother Earth. It's allegory for how life began.

It's all symbolism, not literal history.


Great answer. I love it.


What about the aspect of being a sinner? We are born sinners. How about God waited for thousand of years for the perfect human capable of withstanding His presence?



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: Abednego

Only one group of people believe in Original Sin.

Maybe less of a sinner than everyone else at the time.


That said, original sin aside, Catholics believe that "full of grace" is equivalent to sinless.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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Or

A Jewish vixen lied about her sexual past.....what do you think is more likely?




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