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ENOUGH! Greece refutes EU anti-Russian statement

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posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 10:45 PM
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According to the article, the EU released a blanket statement regarding the shelling of Mariupol, UA, allegedly by pro-Russian troops. The statement, as it alleged, was approved by all EU member states.

Greece, a government turning away from the EU, exposed the EU lie by denying that Greece had been informed of this blanket statement. The Greek government was furious, according to the article, and went on to refute the statement itself.

It appears that Greece is bold enough to stand against this EU hegemony and tell the truth. This demonstrates that this overwhelming anti-Russian stance in the West isn't quite so unified. They say everyone supports it without actual consultation. With France and Germany going behind the Washington's back in recent negotiations, the question must be asked: "can we really trust anything they say anymore? One lie is two more.."

A Grexit would be the best move they could make. The EU is the closest thing to a NWO out there, and their only rebuttal to being caught was "we told you."

No, EU, WERE telling you. Especially Greece is telling you. We won't fight and die for your elite ruling classes anymore. The days of elitists are numbered, provided Greece starts its intended shakeup.

Good move Syriza!

article here: rt.com...
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posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 10:58 PM
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Truthfully...RT is an organ of the FSB, what do you think they are trying do?
Their bull# is getting as tiring as Pravdas...or the western presstitues....
Maybe they reported whats real, maybe they subtly altered it in some way....I refuse to accept any newsmedia bull# anymore.....RT included....
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posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: stirling

Its all propaganda in some way. Each side twists their stories to make their standpoint the valid appearing one.

I stripped out the BS, and left only their country's official stance - they did not issue the statement nor do they accuse Russia.



posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 11:38 PM
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Jeeze is there NO neutral, factual reportage anywhere|?
Greece is being driven into the BRICS by greedy bankers IMHO


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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 12:25 AM
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Until Greece starts to put something else into the wallets of others
besides their hands,
they should STFU.
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 12:44 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
With France and Germany going behind the Washington's back in recent negotiations [...]


What are you even talking about?

Germany and France are trying to find a diplomatic solution to the mess in Ukraine, so our continent doesn't turn to ashes. You know... we live here.

The U.S. under Obama has been trampling on our "genuine partnership", and you're talking about trust?
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: LionOfGOD
Until Greece starts to put something else into the wallets of others
besides their hands,
they should STFU.




Russia can have Greece.....Really it will give them a nice vacation spot away from the cold. All they have to do is hand them a blank check and be understanding when they never pay it back.
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Mark my words

Unless Greece leaves Euro currency and goes back to their currency. There will be no real resolve



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 03:04 AM
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Not sure why Russia would make anti Greese statements. I would have thought they would glad the one EU member has split away from the US. Russia would like counteries to opt out of the EU.

But I spose that could only happen if they felt confident they could withstand the 'European Spring' that would spring up from nowhere, the sanctions, threats to lives etc, even economic sanctions from these kinds of people.

Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative who was Deputy Secretary of Defense under the Bush regime, declared:

“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”
Is Wolfowitz, when referring to “hostile power” referring to any power independent of Washington’s control?

Ref: Paul Craig Roberts



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: learnatic
Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative who was Deputy Secretary of Defense under the Bush regime, declared:

“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”
Is Wolfowitz, when referring to “hostile power” referring to any power independent of Washington’s control?

Ref: Paul Craig Roberts

You post the same quote in every thread...day after day. Spamming everyone is your idea of fun?



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 04:54 AM
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This is an old article on Greece and it's brand new government. Right after this happened Greece fell right back into line, agreeing to extensions of sanctions as well as adding new people to the sanctions list.

I don't find the EU as the leader of the NWO. Greece sure can leave that group of countries if they don't like the policies in it. Greece can align with Russia if they are more like minded.

I think more consideration of what the NWO really is and isn't should be done.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 06:31 AM
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Unfortunately, RT is about a trustworthy as Faux News.

Regardless, Greece doesn't really get much of a say in what the EU condemns, and I do believe this was nothing more than one or two individuals within the Greek government letting off steam.

It's important to consider that there is a difference between official government policy and the opinions of some within any government.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 08:44 PM
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Just because Greece was not in on their little group meeting is why they are mad. It has nothing to do with the info being accurate!!



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 09:45 PM
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At the end of the day, Greece is located strategically at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa. So with that being said, there will never be allowed any potential enemy Naval bases located within the Greek isles, the deciders are not going to have it, Germany certainly will not.

Greece owes The U.S and The EU, well actually The International Bankers really (Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase), a huge amount of debt after them being bailed out during their own financial crisis between 2010 - 2014. Oh and just to be clear, U.S Tax payers assisted Greece with their financial needs.

What is really bad for Greece though, is some of these loans were kept off the books as well. Know what that means? = Multiple shady forces foaming out their mouths, and licking their chops for an excuse to bring the hammer down when the perfect time presents itself. Maybe some Russian banks were maybe involved eh? Well I have no idea.

I doubt Russia is foolish enough to play the Cuba card with Greece anyway. If Putin was so bold, everyone will get their World War 3 without a doubt for sure though. ~$heopleNation



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: LionOfGOD
Until Greece starts to put something else into the wallets of others
besides their hands,
they should STFU.


How ignorant are you exactly? Well I'll show you and EVERYONE how ignorant, among other colourful things I can't say here because it will break the sites rules. But I think we all know what sort of words I'm hinting at to describe someone such as your self.

Of the money that Greece has supposedly received, supposedly to bail out Greece, do you know how much of that money Greece has actually seen, as in money gone directly to Greece for Greece? Less then 10%. Less then 10%.

Do you know where over 90% of the money actually went? It went to bailing out greedy banks that were failing and INSOLVENT.

It was NEVER meant to be a bailout of Greece, or saving Greece financially. It was ALWAYS about bailing out the banks on the verge of collapse. Greece had VERY LITTLE to do with those banks being on the verge of collapse. Greece, as a weak link, was used as the FRONT for this little scam that the banksters and their politician puppets in Germany and France used to FOOL the European people.


The only people so far who have had the balls to stand up and speak the truth has been people like Varoufakis, the new Greek finance minister.

He has been speaking the truth for many years, and now is in a position to do something about it.



People like you on the other hand, and I use the term people very loosely because I don't consider you to be normal or on the same level as the rest of humanity, but way below it, are a disgrace to humanity, and the rest of us should be utterly ashamed that stupidity like yours exists in this day and age.

Now go continue being an ignorant sheep that you've been raised to be by your television. You wouldn't want to miss the next update to your programing, lest your eyes actually open to the real world around you.

So in your own words, STFU.
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: SheopleNation
At the end of the day, Greece is located strategically at the crossroads of Europe, Asia and Africa. So with that being said, there will never be allowed any potential enemy Naval bases located within the Greek isles, the deciders are not going to have it, Germany certainly will not.

Greece owes The U.S and The EU, well actually The International Bankers really (Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase), a huge amount of debt after them being bailed out during their own financial crisis between 2010 - 2014. Oh and just to be clear, U.S Tax payers assisted Greece with their financial needs.

What is really bad for Greece though, is some of these loans were kept off the books as well. Know what that means? = Multiple shady forces foaming out their mouths, and licking their chops for an excuse to bring the hammer down when the perfect time presents itself. Maybe some Russian banks were maybe involved eh? Well I have no idea.

I doubt Russia is foolish enough to play the Cuba card with Greece anyway. If Putin was so bold, everyone will get their World War 3 without a doubt for sure though. ~$heopleNation


Is it Ignorance Week on ATS?


Greece's real debt is 110% of GDP. What it previously was at the start of the crisis.

The new debt, which totals 170% of GDP, is a load of crap. Why? Because Greece was used as a front, for Germany and other governments to fraudulently move money through Greece to their banks which were on the verge of collapsing. They weren't on the verge of collapsing because of Greece's outstanding debt.

Like I said, Greece saw less then 10% of that money. Because yes, Greece needed money, but it didn't need that much money.
If all that money was for Greece, then why did it's debt increase? Greece couldn't pay it's lenders..so Europe loans it a few hundred billion..apparently..Greece's debt was a few hundred billion...so why is Greece worse off, why is it's debt bigger?

This is staring everyone in the god damn face, It's right there out in the open, and yet none of you have picked up on it. Why? Because you are sheep brainwashed by your governments through the media they control.

Greece had a problem, sure. But it was a small problem when taken into context Europe-wide and Globally.

They took advantage of that situation, with a complicit media they control to brainwash you, to covertly refinance their own banks which were nearing collapse. That's why over 90% of the "bailout" money went to their banks and not Greece.
That's why less then 10% went to Greece for Greece's money problems.
Less then 10%. What was the bailout, 240 billion euros...hmm..less then 10% of that. And all this fuss about Greece huh?

You've been fooled and tricked by the well oiled propaganda machine of the West.


Even today, Greece's total debt with that bs new debt added on, doesn't even equate to 0.5% of global debt.
Think about this figures for a moment, because you'll start to realize that there is bigger things in motion here, and Greece is just being used as a front for propaganda purposes for sheeple like your self.

Greece is not the problem. Neither is Portugal or Spain or Italy or Ireland.

The real problem is the GLOBALIST BANKS and the complicit, corrupt politicians in all our governments.



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 10:45 PM
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That's nice.
i still stand by my statement.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 01:17 PM
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This isn't complicated...

Greece is looking to befriend Russia for $$$

AND...THE EU DID NOT "LIE"


The resolute tone of the declaration is grounded in earlier Council conclusions, adopted unanimously on 18 December, which clearly states that "the EU will stay the course" on Russia and is "ready to take further steps if necessary."

But that was before Tsipras came to power. In a statement, the Greek government denounced the “non-institutional” way in which the declaration was drafted.

The EU statement, it said, “was released without the prescribed procedure to obtain consent by the member states and particularly without ensuring the consent of Greece”.

“Greece does not consent to this statement,” concludes the communiqué.

www.euractiv.com...

This new Greek PM needs CASH...



The leaders’ discussion focused partly on possible routes to send Russian natural gas through Greece into the rest of the European Union, the state-owned news service Sputnik reported. Russia previously sent a large proportion of its gas through Ukraine to Europe, but the conflict between the Ukrainian government and Russian-backed rebels has put that arrangement on hold.

Russia wants to build a new gas route through Turkey that would carry 50 billion cubic meters of fuel to Europe every year.

www.ibtimes.com...

Hell...here he is from almost a year ago..


Filling out his complete rejection of the international community's handling of the Ukraine crisis, Tsipras denounced international sanctions against Moscow, which he said will "only harm Europe".

www.enetenglish.gr...

So what? The new far left PM of Greece loves him some Putin and is looking for a sugar daddy..

No revelation here...

No Lie here by the EU...they made the statement before this idiot became PM...

RT lies..



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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Somebody seems to be stuck on the stupid wagon. The financial crisis Greece is experiencing was brought on by idiotic and suicidal Socialist policies. You reap what you sow Pal. ~$heopleNation



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: SheopleNation

AMEN!




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