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Anti vaxxers a simple question.

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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 11:57 PM
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a reply to: InconspicuousWhistle
There was, from what I understand, an unvaccinated child that was sick that may have exposed her child. She has lost a child to this disease already. Hm, here you go, maybe you missed this part: On Feb. 9, York Region Health called to inform her that another patient in the waiting room was infected with measles, and she and her family may have come into contact with the virus, which is airborne.

Hibben-White has no doubt who is to blame.

"I won't get angry at or blame the person in the waiting room," she wrote in her post. "If you have chosen to not vaccinate yourself or your child, I blame you. I blame you."

Hibben-White's son, Griffin, is too young to receive the measles vaccination, but everyone else in her family has been vaccinated. Should her youngest develop measles, she notes that death is "a potential outcome."

Hibben-White says she knows this outcome very well, as her five-year-old daughter died from an infection.

The story only came out today. I don't know any other details. Okay, I read the article again, here you go: Hibben-White will get an update on whether Griffin has indeed contracted measles on Feb. 17. Until then, she says, the two are waiting at their home in isolation.
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posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 11:57 PM
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The incubation period ranges from 7 to 21 days from exposure to onset of fever; rash usually appears about 14 days after exposure.

wwwnc.cdc.gov...



posted on Feb, 11 2015 @ 11:58 PM
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She has lost a child to this disease already.

Incorrect. Read it again.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:01 AM
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Here you go, I'm pretty sure I'm reading it correctly: Hibben-White says she knows this outcome very well, as her five-year-old daughter died from an infection.

EDIT: yes, I see what you're saying. She lost a child from "an infection". But the point is she has lost a child and there is the slight potential she could again.
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posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:02 AM
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Not "measles". Not "this disease". "An infection."

There is more than one type of infection.



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posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:03 AM
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Got it! Thanks Phage.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:03 AM
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There was, from what I understand, an unvaccinated child that was sick that may have exposed her child. She has lost a child to this disease already.




"I won't get angry at or blame the person in the waiting room," she wrote in her post. "If you have chosen to not vaccinate yourself or your child, I blame you. I blame you."


This implies that the person was vaccinated though.



Hibben-White says she knows this outcome very well, as her five-year-old daughter died from an infection.


Died of an infection.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:04 AM
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This implies that the person was vaccinated though.

It implies no such thing.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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I think we're all tired, check out the line:
There was, from what I understand, an unvaccinatedchild that was sick that may have exposed her child. She has lost a child to this disease already.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: InconspicuousWhistle


The incubation period ranges from 7 to 21 days from exposure to onset of fever; rash usually appears about 14 days after exposure.

wwwnc.cdc.gov...


Ya, I know, after 15 days I would say the kid is probably safe though.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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There was, from what I understand, an unvaccinatedchild that was sick that may have exposed her child. She has lost a child to this disease already.


Where in the article did you read that? And didn't we just establish that her other child died of an infection.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:14 AM
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Why doesn't she blame the infected person? Or was it a child of anti vaccination parents?



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:15 AM
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I don't know.
To both questions.
As to the second, she probably doesn't know.

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posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:18 AM
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Then just must agree that it possibly could imply that.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: InconspicuousWhistle

If you're into speculation. Sure.

Here's some more.
She doesn't blame the person because she has no idea who that person may be.
She blames those who don't vaccinate because they help spread disease.

How's that for speculation?
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posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:22 AM
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Judging an implication is often based on speculation.




She doesn't blame the person because she has no idea who that person may be. She blames those who don't vaccinate because they help spread disease.


But this person was spreading the disease, and she blames those who don't vaccinate, but she doesn't blame this person. So either she knows this person was vaccinated or she knows this person wasn't vaccinated outside of their own fault.
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posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:22 AM
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See my edit.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: ccseagull
** I don't get flu shots. Ever. I am discussing deadly diseases not some fluke that occurs.

So the flu isn't a deadly disease now? Hmm. Damn near killed my grandfather last year, and did kill thousands of others, but I guess that's just "some fluke that occurs," right?

I believe that if someone fails to get a recommended vaccination, and they spread that disease to another person, they should be held liable for it--whether it's polio, measles, or influenza. It's all the same thing. Person makes a choice that puts others in danger, that choice harms someone, they should take responsibility for it.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:34 AM
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So either she knows this person was vaccinated or she knows this person wasn't vaccinated outside of their own fault.



This is getting silly.
No. She only knows someone in the waiting room had measles.



posted on Feb, 12 2015 @ 12:36 AM
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So the flu isn't a deadly disease now? Hmm. Damn near killed my grandfather last year, and did kill thousands of others, but I guess that's just "some fluke that occurs," right?


Hell, it kills more people than Measles but Measles seems to be the flavor of the week.




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