Operation Indigo Skyfold

a reply to: ConnectDots

and real facts have some evidential basis.

I don't think you are seriously interested in a learning discussion - you are just Gish Galloping every CT theory you have ever heard of now.

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
Perhaps the intervals?

originally posted by: ConnectDots

Start at 0:36:

Do you agree that spraying from an aircraft was captured on video?

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul

originally posted by: DenyObfuscation
a reply to: ConnectDots
I'm going with number 3. Sounds very sketchy for multiple reasons.

My main question is, did it even happen? If so, did the actual events even remotely resemble the story.

When it first came out I found an article in a local paper that broadly supported the narrative of events - that link is here but 404's - but a search of the news site ffinds this which looks like the event

Thanks for the new motivation to search for some answers. I have no way of knowing if Max Cassilly, the victim, is his 'BFF' or not but I did find a few interesting discrepancies between dutch's account and that of the victim's father.

For some reason dutch said the roommate was in the kitchen. Why? Where did he get that info from? It shouldn't have come from the roommate or the police because

Cassilly said Max was asleep in his bedroom in the apartment in the 3600 block of Montana Avenue with his dogs in the bed and the door to the room closed. His roommate was sitting on the steps outside of the house smoking a cigarette when two men pulled up in a black Hummer, Cassilly said. Police say the shooting occurred at 6:20 a.m.

source

Dutch also specified they shot him in his bed. The article above says Max was trying to run away when he was shot.

ETA: Wow! What kind of company does Dutch keep?

Since December 2010 Max Cassilly has been legally prohibited from entering one of St. Louis' most popular attractions: the City Museum, which is owned by his father, Bob Cassilly.

The younger Cassilly, 25, also is barred from his father's home.

The injunction keeping him away was obtained by Max's stepmother, Bob Cassilly's wife, Giovanna. Giovanna Cassilly, who owns a clothing store at the City Museum, petitioned for an order of protection on December 10 of last year, alleging that her stepson had repeatedly threatened to kill her.

www.riverfronttimes.com...

originally posted by: ConnectDots

Do you agree that spraying from an aircraft was captured on video?

Again I'm not going to search through a 77 minute video!! Give me time stamps or don't bother asking!

I do know that the image at the start of the video is also used (or maybe was used - I haven't checked the page lately) by geoengineering watch as "proof" of "spray" coming from nozzles - which is patent bravo sierra......oh and yep - it is still there....about half way down their home page

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul

Again I'm not going to search through a 77 minute video!! Give me time stamps or don't bother asking!

I gave you the start point.

Please pay me the courtesy of scrolling back up to take a look at it.

Connect Dots.

All these interviews and videos that you keep posting are completely irrelevant. Due to the arguments already put forward, which you seem to be ignoring, chemtrails - as thick white lines from high flying aircraft across the sky, some of which may spread into cloud cover - are physically impossible. When you look at the process involved in a trail spreading into cloud, the only argument that works is the nucleation and freezing of water vapour already present in the air. The alternative requires a chemtrail to magically replicate itself out of nothing. Every example there has ever been of spraying from an aircraft, such as crop spraying at low level, shows the substance sprayed to thin out immediately after spraying. Me and Gaul pointed you to the same thread showing how to calculate the amount of water in a contrail and it's a volume of material that cannot be carried by any aircraft. The example used was a 100km trail, horizon to horizon is about 400km, I believe, and of course aircraft routes cover thousands of miles and they need to carry fuel too.

Therefore, we don't need to rely on "TPTB disinformation" as you see it. Even if we accept that a secret spraying operation WAS underway, we can be certain through our own workings out, that it is definitely not the thick visible trails in the Sky that is the concern of every single chemtrail website and campaigner.

So if the "specialists" have got it that wrong it most likely isn't there at all. So all the you tube videos you post of Wiggy, Kirsten et al talking their asses off is irrelevant fluff and waffle. When one gets it completely wrong at the start, nothing that follows matters, or has any relevance at all.

a reply to: waynos
Facts don't matter when one "knows" the truth.

It should also be pointed out that "connecting dots" only works when one follows the correct sequence of numbers.

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
When it first came out I found an article in a local paper that broadly supported the narrative of events - that link is here but 404's - but a search of the news site ffinds this which looks like the event

What do you mean when it first came out?

Came out how?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: waynos

It should also be pointed out that "connecting dots" only works when one follows the correct sequence of numbers.

And when you're not attempting to do it on an ant hill

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ConnectDots


Did you hear him say we don't know what they're about? We can see trails, but the question is, what's in them?

Can you please answer this instead of ignore it because it's inconvenient?

Why can't the official answer that fully explains contrails be what's in them? the whole conspiracy is based on why the can't persist, but even you, and Micheal J, Murphey, fully understand that contrails can persist.

What is it that makes you believe the easy answer isn't the right one?

I understand. This question doesn't sit well with that "common sense" you are so fond of.
Dane must have taught you well to avoid the tough questions.

originally posted by: ConnectDots

What do you mean when it first came out?

Came out how?

The event happened in 2011 and was blogged by dutch soon after.

originally posted by: ConnectDots


I gave you the start point.

Please pay me the courtesy of scrolling back up to take a look at it.

So you did - my apologies.

The answer is no, I do not see anything that looks like "spraying".

What I se at 0:36 is some aerodynamic contrails (note this is a fairly academic paper, but it has some nice photos on the 2nd page) - another well known phenomena that chemmies seem to not want to bother understanding.

Oh man.. at 1:17 he has that KC 10 video, which has long been explained as aerodynamic contrails.

Here's the tanker enemy version of the video:



Notice how 'spraying nozzles' are pointed out in the video. What is actually pointed out are flap fairings, which can be clearly seen in this picture of a KC 10: www.flugzeuginfo.net...

Here's the original video, posted by the guy who made the video. It was a spoof on the chemtrail believers:



And here's a closeup of the aerodynamic contrails being generated by the same plane:



In this video you can clearly see that the 'spray nozzles' are actually flap fairings.

So there you have it. Another hoax video from a chemtrail believer (tanker enemy). Are you connecting the dots yet?

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

BFF as in "Best Friends Forever," or what?

I see that you've posted two sources. The second source is the Riverfront Times. I can access that.

But the first source is the St. Louis Post-Dispatch gossip column.

But the story is blacked out:



I take it it was there a few hours ago?

a reply to: ConnectDots

"answer a survey question to continue reading"

I am sure that has nothing to do with the content being blocked out. It's probably a conspiracy.

a reply to: ConnectDots
Sorry, I had to answer a couple of survey questions to see the article. I won't normally do that but this time I really wanted the info.

a reply to: DenyObfuscation

If this was an assassination attempt, do you suppose there might be some hanky-panky going on with news coverage?

a reply to: network dude
Yes, there it is plain and clear.

How STUPID of me!!!!!!

a reply to: DenyObfuscation
And my apology for not seeing what was in plain sight.