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The certainty with which you make that statement tells me that you have not been researching what's going on in the world outside of the contrail/chemtrail debate.
But your post speaks volumes and perhaps there is nothing more to discuss.
Why go round and round in circles?
A waste of time and energy.
originally posted by: Bedlam
You really have to ask yourself - in what way could a 2-10MHz radio wave "absorb light". There not being even a remote chance that this could happen, you need to look for other explanations.
originally posted by: Bedlam
Watching a 1968 program, the sky behind the actors in one shot is absolutely full of persistent contrails.
You have to have a low thin even haze layer to project the shadow onto, and the sun has to be fairly low but "over" the haze, and you need a dense contrail in just the right spot.
BTW, earlier I said I had seen one . . .
originally posted by: ConnectDots
originally posted by: waynos
When my response is, hold on a minute, WHY are they chemtrails and why do you believe that? First show me that something is there before you ask me what i think its for?
If the topic is new, yes, at the get-go that should be the approach.
But if a debate has been raging for some time, maybe the presenter has given up trying to supply what the listener is demanding.
This is a tricky subject, is it not?
If the government is pulling the wool over our eyes, the general public is at a huge disadvantage trying to make sense out of the confusion, I would think.
Or they don't want you looking at the trees because you might see they are painted onto cardboard.
I think you missed my point.
I'm saying that both sides of the debate within the general public, us, are caught up in a situation where, if I'm correct, the powers that be are keeping us busy arguing back and forth, back and forth, with each other, while they go about their business maintaining their control over the world.
That's why conspiracy theorists need to be respected just like everyone else, and not ridiculed. Because ridicule is a fallacy of reason.
And that's why we need to listen to whistleblowers.
But again, you're accepting it IS reality with nothing but a claim from someone you don't even know.
How come these claims are acceptable as truth, without examination, but our attempts to explain trails scientifically and factually are batted away as simply our opinion. why is there a difference there?
You missed my point.
But I've already replied to try to clarify that point, so I won't repeat myself.
In response to my inquiry about contrail shadow photos, which I asked about because it had been alleged that what Lew Price observed was nothing unusual; you agreed that what Lew Price had observed was a contrail shadow.
originally posted by: network dude
You state that as if you have no doubt everything you think is true.
Who are the shadow government?
What is an example of one of their "front groups"?
What would it take to prove chemtrails are either real, or a paranoid delusion? From all I have seen here, the only real way to do this is to fly up and test a trail that everyone agrees fits the narrative of a chemtrail. The only issue I see with this is determining what is a chemtrail and have that answer accepted by all chemtrail pushers.
Having seen the success of go-fund-me projects, I have no doubt we could raise enough money to rent the plane and get the air samples, so that part is easy. I would like to hear from the chemtrail side on this to understand if they would be receptive to this idea. In the past, the only argument I have heard is how expensive it would be. having that part removed, are there any other reasons this might not work?
Please leave the "do they exist-I know what I see" discussion for another thread.
My understanding is that there are extremely wealthy families at the top of the pyramid who believe themselves to be superior to ordinary humans and thus have a right to rule the planet.
The first thing that comes to my mind is that "chemtrailers" might feel that the "contrailer" suggesting this is not in good faith.