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Obama slips up: pro US troops?

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posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 07:34 PM
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rt.com...

This article shows a CNN ticker claiming that Kiev forces are "pro US troops."

Exactly how are we even involved? Ah yes, rogue Victoria Nuland.

So, if this is accurate, is this now,a proxy war?




posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
rt.com...

This article shows a CNN ticker claiming that Kiev forces are "pro US troops."

Exactly how are we even involved? Ah yes, rogue Victoria Nuland.

So, if this is accurate, is this now,a proxy war?


Well they sure wont go full blow at each other's throat. It is a proxy war. Just this time the "country" is a bit too close for comfort to an actual border. Unlike places like Vietnam, Angola and so forth.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Guenter

This is exactly what worries me! Much more likely to cause Russia to fervently defend the borders.

I place blame on both belligerents, but the US government has no business being there in the first place.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
rt.com...

This article shows a CNN ticker claiming that Kiev forces are "pro US troops."

Exactly how are we even involved? Ah yes, rogue Victoria Nuland.

So, if this is accurate, is this now,a proxy war?


''Is this NOW a proxy war?''

It has been for quite some time now & to give you an idea, when he says ''pro-U.S. troops'', what he actually means is those right-wing paramilitary groups in which the U.S. was funding even before the first elections in Ukraine



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Guenter

This is exactly what worries me! Much more likely to cause Russia to fervently defend the borders.

I place blame on both belligerents, but the US government has no business being there in the first place.


I share your concerns totally. Because that is a bit "too close" for comfort. And naturally the USA has to go back home behinds it's own borders. Russia's history is for 1,000 of years being over run by various tribes hordes and what have you. They are a bit trigger happy when you get too close to their borders. I have been through the cold war at the "border" and believe me it is "not" funny.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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I place blame on both belligerents, but the US government has no business being there in the first place.


I believe the US/NATO has a treaty obligation that requires we aid Ukraine. Therefore, the US does have business in Ukraine unless the US no longer honors its treaty obligations.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 08:13 PM
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The US will honour any and all treaty obligations when convenient to its global strategy...no more no less.....
We certainly DO have business there...Joe Bidens son is CEO of huge Ukrainian gas corporation....
They are prospective customers for our weapons and blue jeans....
Russia has troops in Ukraine...that have been leading the Eastern simpathisers in their rebellion...didn't you know this?
Weapons and troops of Russia are fighting in the Ukraine from the start....



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Obama never slips up.

Even if it seems so, it's in his script. Always an agenda.

Most likely only a few will catch it but when it comes time to face accusations he can always say "I never denied it."

All in the script.

Peace



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 08:36 PM
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I originally supported Russia, and no I consider myself "non aligned."

The only side I'm on is people like us, who would suffer from nuclear war. Our "brave" leaders would be in bunkers, quite literally under a rock.

Land is just land. If Putin invades a NATO nation, article 5 his a%%. Otherwise, its an internal matter. Sadly, the evidence suggests that both belligerents have ulterior motives, and true peace will never be possible.

Not until armed citizens turn 84 into 76.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

You blame both belligerents, you just blame the U.S. more, right?

Neither side has any "good" reason to be there, doing what they're doing. "They" are going to blame "us" and "we" are going to blame "them." All while a country gets the crap blown out of it and people die.

Pawns in a game between a wannabe chess master and a wanna be spymaster.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

I blame the US, because it thinks it can solve problems by throwing weapons and hurling missiles at anything it doesn't like.

I blame Russia, because they capitalized on the US led instability and orchestrated a land grab.

That being said, were talking about a nations BORDER. Russia won't let another Leningrad happen. This a nuclear armed country, and they're willing to use it.

Obama is a politician. Putin is a true KGB spymaster. Obama is intellectually outclassed. Whatever he does, its no doubt giving putin more ammo.

Booo Obama.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

This might be actual true, see here.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

That's not the only slip

I saw on RT that US spokeswoman talking to reporters and saying

OUR objectives in Ukraine

OUR OBJECTIVES



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: jude11
Obama never slips up.

Even if it seems so, it's in his script. Always an agenda.

Most likely only a few will catch it but when it comes time to face accusations he can always say "I never denied it."

All in the script.

Peace


Lol. You might be onto something



posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 12:09 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

CNN being stupid again.. The western media has been talking about it also.

If you look at the issue in terms of east and west the comment by CNN makes sense, although I think they are stupid for using the language they did.

Its not helpful to the situation at all.



posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 12:31 AM
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Some of you really are trying to make something out of nothing.

'' our objectives '' can simply mean bringing peace through diplomacy - which is what they've been yammering on about for a long time

'' Pro US troops '' well, Ukraine is an ally of sorts, they are fighting against Russia so of course they are. You dont think they mean '' pro(fessional) US troops'' do you?


and even with the best teleprompters and speeches, people slip up all the time

what is happening in Ukraine is bad and its probably going to get worse, but dont get ahead yourselves.

What you hear and see is only a fraction of the truth, its this way by design.

the last thing Russia and the US want is a full scale war that involves Nato. Why? because once you pull that NATO trigger it will change everything for ever and neither Obama or Putin are wanting to start a world war.

As for Ukraine?
We (the West) took Iraq and Afghanistan. We're half way to taking Syria as well and Russia didnt cry like a baby and start a war. Give a little, get a little. If the west doesnt back down and let Russia take Ukraine then Russia will not be very happy.

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posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 05:03 AM
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I do not Support any Country with Bias articles, I just support Truth. Honestly, I slightly turned off from U.S Politics after U.S-Iraq invasion in 2003 claiming Iraq have got Weapons of Mass Destruction. Which wasn't completely true.

After no success on discovering WMD, they released an articles to Fill their LAG by stating something like this... "the gradual discovery of thousands of chemical weapons, including warheads and shells containing mustard gas and sarin, by American and Iraqi troops after the 2003 United States invasion of the country". and it simply went like nothing ever happened.

C'mon! Amid War who does not have those kind of weapons anyway?



posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Leningrad? Nukes? Wow. Straight to doom porn, eh?

Obama is a community organizer. That's really all that needs to be said. Him being outclassed is, at least, something we can agree on.

But like I said, you blame everybody, you just blame one side much more than the other. Call it what it is



posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

So, Do i also need to post some links about not finding the WMD? not just some but many links.

and about Wikileaks, it's more of a anti US site now.

#We are all intellectual dweebs.



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