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UFO & Aliens & The Physical Evidence

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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: FormOfTheLord



When an implant is removed from a human body and sent to multiple labs to test composistion of alloys and makeup of the chip, and the findings consistently show that the material is not known or found on this planet, wouldn't that give credibility that the implants are extraterrestrial?


Yes yes yes evidence states its not of earthly orgin!

This is like the holy grail of ET evidence FTW!




posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Tangerine



Correct, but the onus is on the person making the positive claim (ie. implants prove the existence of extraterrestrials) to prove that claim.


Do you believe in god . Why is there an onus . Some unwritten rule somewhere .


No. Why would I?

Facts are based on testable evidence only. When a claim of fact is made, it's obviously up to the claimant to cite the testable evidence making the claim fact. Science is based on this principle and fact is the purview of science. Belief is an entirely different matter. Belief is based on faith in the absence of testable evidence.

Would you prefer a system of communication in which there is absolutely no distinction between belief and fact?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord



Yes yes yes evidence states its not of earthly orgin!

What evidence?
All we've seen is claims with no independent corroboration.
Claims are much easier to produce than actual evidence.

edit on 2/7/2015 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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No one needs to prove anything to you, You either will have a sighting or you won't and because of the nature of the phenomenon which is high technology. You likely will fail at trying to record a signifigant event.

If you don't see anything or nothing happens to you. You can still choose to believe or not.
I can tell you that they are 100% real but that's just some random guys oppinion on the internet.

Maybe you should feel good about not having any recollection of any such signifigant events if they happened to you because nearly in every case they these types of experiences are Terrorfying. It's like asking if the boogeyman is real.

Do you really really want to know if the boogeyman is real? Would you put yourself in the position to find out? Or just observe reports and videos from a distance and judge your curiosity on that. I'm not going to call you stupid for picking either or because that's ultimately up to you.

Now for me to try to convince the population that the boogeyman is real, Is taking your particlar case and amplifying it to the entire planet. Maybe some people just want to deny the existance of the boogeyman because the idea of it horrorfies them. Let alone, actually envoking the monster under your bed to make a grand entrance.... Some people will and do put themselves in that position and some people experience the boogeyman without there actually being one. Some experience it full on and cannot be convinced otherwise. The thing tho that makes it overloomingly creepy is that the universe and space is massive. So the posibilities come down to science. Which is coming closer and closer to finding life outside of this blue ball we call Earth.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:21 PM
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originally posted by: AnuTyr
No one needs to prove anything to you, You either will have a sighting or you won't and because of the nature of the phenomenon which is high technology. You likely will fail at trying to record a signifigant event.


I agree with you 100%, its becoming willful ignorance at this point. . . .
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: Phage



Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some.
Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a
totally stunning size, "wow, that's big", time. Infinity is just so
big that by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy.
Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly
huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here.”
― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe


In a place this big i beggars belief that there aren't other life forms . No evidence here .



“It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.”
― Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe


Alternate view . I love beer .



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr



Which is coming closer and closer to finding life outside of this blue ball we call Earth.

I eagerly await that discovery and the evidence which supports it.
edit on 2/7/2015 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: Phage

As do i
Hopefully humanity will add more caution to *finding life* outside of the earths magnetic feild. But the likely hood of predators roaming space is going to be high. Considering we are currently doing that right now. And soon will be physically moving planet to planet within a decade.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: hutch622



In a place this big i beggars belief that there aren't other life forms .

I agree. I am quite sure that life is abundant in the Universe and probably common in our Galaxy.
You'll find I have frequently expressed this opinion.
edit on 2/7/2015 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Whn an implant is removed from a human body and sent to multiple labs to test composistion of alloys and makeup of the chip, and the findings consistently show that the material is not known or found on this planet, wouldn't that give credibility that the implants are extraterrestrial?


No. It's impossible to prove a negative (ie. the material is not found on this planet). If you look outside and the bicycle you left in the driveway is missing that does not prove that Jim stole it.


That is a terrible metaphor. Many of the elements within the implant were found to be rare earth metals and had a strong magnetic field related to them. Here is the basic composistion of the tiny implant.



Major trace elements detected included magnesium (890 ppm, or 0.089%), germanium (300 ppm), aluminum (260 ppm), sodium (230 ppm), copper (170 ppm), and gallium (130 ppm). Minor trace elements included boron (15 ppm), barium (96 ppm) and strontium (10 ppm), titanium (20 ppm), vanadium (21 ppm), chromium (13 ppm), manganese (62 ppm), zinc (44 ppm), and arsenic (17 ppm). The sample also contained smaller amounts of precious metals, including platinum (10 ppm), ruthenium (8.0 ppm), iridium (3.6 ppm), palladium (3.3 ppm), rhodium (2.8 ppm), osmium (2.2 ppm), and gold (0.90 ppm). Other transition elements present included molybdenum (9.3 ppm) and tungsten (1.9 ppm), tin (6.5 ppm), zirconium (4.4 ppm) and hafnium (0.10 ppm), yttrium (0.88 ppm), rhenium (0.66 ppm), and niobium (0.37 ppm). The sample also contained traces of rare earth elements, and actinides. The rare earth elements detected included cerium (0.85 ppm), neodymium (0.39 ppm), samarium (0.13 ppm), gadolinium (0.13 ppm), dysprosium (0.11 ppm), praseodymium (0.11 ppm), erbium, (0.07 ppm), ytterbium (0.05 ppm), and europium (0.03 ppm). Actinides detected included thorium (0.23 ppm), and uranium (0.21 ppm). The remaining trace elements detected included selenium (2.5 ppm), lead (1.3 ppm), antimony (0.37 ppm), and rubidium (0.15 ppm).



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: iDope

Can you provide the name of the lab which did the analysis please?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Whn an implant is removed from a human body and sent to multiple labs to test composistion of alloys and makeup of the chip, and the findings consistently show that the material is not known or found on this planet, wouldn't that give credibility that the implants are extraterrestrial?


No. It's impossible to prove a negative (ie. the material is not found on this planet). If you look outside and the bicycle you left in the driveway is missing that does not prove that Jim stole it.


That is a terrible metaphor. Many of the elements within the implant were found to be rare earth metals and had a strong magnetic field related to them. Here is the basic composistion of the tiny implant.



Major trace elements detected included magnesium (890 ppm, or 0.089%), germanium (300 ppm), aluminum (260 ppm), sodium (230 ppm), copper (170 ppm), and gallium (130 ppm). Minor trace elements included boron (15 ppm), barium (96 ppm) and strontium (10 ppm), titanium (20 ppm), vanadium (21 ppm), chromium (13 ppm), manganese (62 ppm), zinc (44 ppm), and arsenic (17 ppm). The sample also contained smaller amounts of precious metals, including platinum (10 ppm), ruthenium (8.0 ppm), iridium (3.6 ppm), palladium (3.3 ppm), rhodium (2.8 ppm), osmium (2.2 ppm), and gold (0.90 ppm). Other transition elements present included molybdenum (9.3 ppm) and tungsten (1.9 ppm), tin (6.5 ppm), zirconium (4.4 ppm) and hafnium (0.10 ppm), yttrium (0.88 ppm), rhenium (0.66 ppm), and niobium (0.37 ppm). The sample also contained traces of rare earth elements, and actinides. The rare earth elements detected included cerium (0.85 ppm), neodymium (0.39 ppm), samarium (0.13 ppm), gadolinium (0.13 ppm), dysprosium (0.11 ppm), praseodymium (0.11 ppm), erbium, (0.07 ppm), ytterbium (0.05 ppm), and europium (0.03 ppm). Actinides detected included thorium (0.23 ppm), and uranium (0.21 ppm). The remaining trace elements detected included selenium (2.5 ppm), lead (1.3 ppm), antimony (0.37 ppm), and rubidium (0.15 ppm).




So what? You can't prove that it's not from earth. It may or may not be. You've utterly failed to prove that extraterrestrials exist and implanted it in anyone.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:36 PM
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Would you prefer a system of communication in which there is absolutely no distinction between belief and fact?


I already live in one i think .



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: hutch622
a reply to: Tangerine




Would you prefer a system of communication in which there is absolutely no distinction between belief and fact?


I already live in one i think .


If you're living in a world filled with Church of ET parishoners you are.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: iDope

Can you provide the name of the lab which did the analysis please?


It will probably turn out to be a science kit for ages 10-13.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: Tangerine


originally posted by: iDope

a reply to: FormOfTheLord



Whn an implant is removed from a human body and sent to multiple labs to test composistion of alloys and makeup of the chip, and the findings consistently show that the material is not known or found on this planet, wouldn't that give credibility that the implants are extraterrestrial?




No. It's impossible to prove a negative (ie. the material is not found on this planet). If you look outside and the bicycle you left in the driveway is missing that does not prove that Jim stole it.




That is a terrible metaphor. Many of the elements within the implant were found to be rare earth metals and had a strong magnetic field related to them. Here is the basic composistion of the tiny implant.






Major trace elements detected included magnesium (890 ppm, or 0.089%), germanium (300 ppm), aluminum (260 ppm), sodium (230 ppm), copper (170 ppm), and gallium (130 ppm). Minor trace elements included boron (15 ppm), barium (96 ppm) and strontium (10 ppm), titanium (20 ppm), vanadium (21 ppm), chromium (13 ppm), manganese (62 ppm), zinc (44 ppm), and arsenic (17 ppm). The sample also contained smaller amounts of precious metals, including platinum (10 ppm), ruthenium (8.0 ppm), iridium (3.6 ppm), palladium (3.3 ppm), rhodium (2.8 ppm), osmium (2.2 ppm), and gold (0.90 ppm). Other transition elements present included molybdenum (9.3 ppm) and tungsten (1.9 ppm), tin (6.5 ppm), zirconium (4.4 ppm) and hafnium (0.10 ppm), yttrium (0.88 ppm), rhenium (0.66 ppm), and niobium (0.37 ppm). The sample also contained traces of rare earth elements, and actinides. The rare earth elements detected included cerium (0.85 ppm), neodymium (0.39 ppm), samarium (0.13 ppm), gadolinium (0.13 ppm), dysprosium (0.11 ppm), praseodymium (0.11 ppm), erbium, (0.07 ppm), ytterbium (0.05 ppm), and europium (0.03 ppm). Actinides detected included thorium (0.23 ppm), and uranium (0.21 ppm). The remaining trace elements detected included selenium (2.5 ppm), lead (1.3 ppm), antimony (0.37 ppm), and rubidium (0.15 ppm).






Good job facts like that are likened to kryptonite for skeptics.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine
No. It was the guy who does the "implant scans" at UFO conventions. See my earlier post.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: Tangerine


originally posted by: iDope

a reply to: FormOfTheLord



Whn an implant is removed from a human body and sent to multiple labs to test composistion of alloys and makeup of the chip, and the findings consistently show that the material is not known or found on this planet, wouldn't that give credibility that the implants are extraterrestrial?




No. It's impossible to prove a negative (ie. the material is not found on this planet). If you look outside and the bicycle you left in the driveway is missing that does not prove that Jim stole it.




That is a terrible metaphor. Many of the elements within the implant were found to be rare earth metals and had a strong magnetic field related to them. Here is the basic composistion of the tiny implant.






Major trace elements detected included magnesium (890 ppm, or 0.089%), germanium (300 ppm), aluminum (260 ppm), sodium (230 ppm), copper (170 ppm), and gallium (130 ppm). Minor trace elements included boron (15 ppm), barium (96 ppm) and strontium (10 ppm), titanium (20 ppm), vanadium (21 ppm), chromium (13 ppm), manganese (62 ppm), zinc (44 ppm), and arsenic (17 ppm). The sample also contained smaller amounts of precious metals, including platinum (10 ppm), ruthenium (8.0 ppm), iridium (3.6 ppm), palladium (3.3 ppm), rhodium (2.8 ppm), osmium (2.2 ppm), and gold (0.90 ppm). Other transition elements present included molybdenum (9.3 ppm) and tungsten (1.9 ppm), tin (6.5 ppm), zirconium (4.4 ppm) and hafnium (0.10 ppm), yttrium (0.88 ppm), rhenium (0.66 ppm), and niobium (0.37 ppm). The sample also contained traces of rare earth elements, and actinides. The rare earth elements detected included cerium (0.85 ppm), neodymium (0.39 ppm), samarium (0.13 ppm), gadolinium (0.13 ppm), dysprosium (0.11 ppm), praseodymium (0.11 ppm), erbium, (0.07 ppm), ytterbium (0.05 ppm), and europium (0.03 ppm). Actinides detected included thorium (0.23 ppm), and uranium (0.21 ppm). The remaining trace elements detected included selenium (2.5 ppm), lead (1.3 ppm), antimony (0.37 ppm), and rubidium (0.15 ppm).






Good job facts like that are likened to kryptonite for skeptics.


That's funny, because we're still here and still asking for the name of the lab, etc.. By the way, one lab testing it is not enough, but that brings us to the scientific method which is kryptonite for the Church of ET parishoners.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Tangerine
No. It was the guy who does the "implant scans" at UFO conventions. See my earlier post.


LOL. I'll bet you're right.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:49 PM
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I am right.
The "report" is by Steve Colbern. That's the guy.



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