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originally posted by: DanKeizer
I don't know for sure because I've never been faced with the choice, but I think if I knew pre-birth that the child had Down's or something similar, I would choose to abort. I'm not going to pretend I'm that heroic.
But then again I have a pretty jaded view on humanity's general value.
originally posted by: Punisher75
So I have read both stories and maybe I missed it, but the mother said that the father wanted to go to New Zealand to raise the baby in a place that is more welcoming and helpful for special needs children.
If I understand correctly, she said she thinks that's was a good idea and was even the first person to think that the move to New Zealand would be best.
So the question then would be why don't she move to New Zealand and get visitation rights?
Was this covered in a post a skimmed over?
In the hardest moment of my life when my husband should be next to me and support and help to take the right decision, I could not find any support from his side. After that incident, he left the hospital notifying me hours later that he was taking the kid with him, that he is going to leave the country for New Zealand and I do not have anything to do with the situation. Without giving me any option and trying to find with me any solution in this hardest situation, he started to circulate the story on every possible platform without even trying to give me a voice accusing that I put him an ultimatum marriage or the baby, which is absolutely not true. I tried several times to communicate but he never tried to listen me and to find common solutions. The only response was the accusation from his part.
Sam has never suggested joining him and bringing up the child together in his country. Neither did he tell me anything on the day we filed for divorce. The only thing he kept saying was that he didn't want us to separate, whereas my question what we should do always remained unanswered.
More details of Mr Forrest's background are emerging, including that he left New Zealand four years ago following a messy divorce that saw him lose his three daughters and one son.
His youngest daughter was born with Down syndrome - the same condition affecting three-week-old son Leo.
Mr Forrest, who lived with his wife and children in Whanganui on New Zealand's north island, was brought up as a member of the Exclusive Brethren church.
He was ex-communicated from the church when he divorced his wife and was banned from seeing his four children, now aged between six and 15 years old.
In a series of emails around the time he left the church, Mr Forrest repeatedly says he 'lost four innocent children' and blames the Exclusive Brethren for the 'deliberate break-up of a family'.
'All his extended family are also members of the Exclusive Brethren and are still forbidden by their religion to have any contact with him,' a source said.
'It was one of the reasons why he left in the first place and went to Armenia. He had no contact with his children and saw no future for himself in New Zealand. It was all very sad.'
'In the hardest moment of my life when my husband should be next to me and support and help to take the right decision, I could not find any support from his side.
'After that incident, he left the hospital notifying me hours later that he was taking the kid with him, that he is going to leave the country for New Zealand and I do not have anything to do with the situation.'
Mr Forrest's crowd funding website has already raised more than $490,000 in his bid to bring up baby Leo in Auckland where he can have access to established disability services.
But it is unclear how much family support he will receive when he returns.
'It's well known within the Exclusive Brethren community that Sam has been cut off by everyone because of divorcing his wife. He has no one to come back to,' a source said.
'You would hope that he'd get some support but it's very unlikely.'