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Fox News’ blood-lusty low...snuff films

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posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis

Fox News’ blood-lusty low: Why it’s now promoting a jihadist snuff film



I love good journalism. There are still good sources, and good journalists -
?


Oh please do tell. I would love to hear your opinion of 'good journalism'.




posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

I remember the nightly news, my husband was in Vietnam and I had just had my first child.

I remember the nonstop barrage of shocking news.

I don't watch these clips however, I can't bare to see them.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: TinfoilTP




The lil baby public must be sheltered from reality in your view, that seems to be your message.

We used to be able to bring the public the news with respect - for the dead and for the dying


People need to get angry about things that deserve getting angry about.

Some people are evidently not intelligent enough to be outraged without watching an entire film of a man's gruesome and inhumane death - every last second of it

Who are these people that can't understand the story without some torture porn to go with it?



During the Vietnam war the liberal press continuously showed "snuff porn". It was on the news nearly every night, I remember, my father was there and I didn't miss the news.
The liberal press said they did it to show the horror of war and why we needed to stop the war.

For liberals to backtrack now and say that a conservative news source should not show what they showed nonstop for years is the height of hypocrisy.

Actually the liberals were right during Vietnam, showing the snuff porn on every news cast did shorten the war and made people want to see the war end. They were horrified.

And now the conservative news is right. Showing the films of what is really happening will horrify people. And like the liberal press of the Vietnam era, may spur people into action to put an end to the horrors.


Applause for that post Grandma.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: UnBreakable

Relax Francis, that wasn't aimed at you just hit the wrong reply button.


Am I the only one that remembers the White House asking people not to watch the previous videos? Maybe it wasn't an "official" ban but when the State Dep. says if you watch it you could be considered a terror suspect it adds up to the same thing.

For one one reason or other those warnings weren't issued regarding this video and FOX News didn't make that call.

When did the state dept say if you watch it then you are a terror suspect? Did FOX tell you that?



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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Here on ATS we always say pics, videos, or it didn't happen.

I don't think it's disrespectful to the dead to show the world how he was brutally murdered. Yes it's awful, and it's insensitive to the family, but if the world can't see how truly awful it really was then he died in vain.

Let's be honest, we're pretty numb when it comes to hearing about violence,even this kind, but if we actually see it then we won't forget about the horror a few days later.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw



And now the conservative news is right. Showing the films of what is really happening will horrify people. And like the liberal press of the Vietnam era, may spur people into action to put an end to the horrors.

If FOX was showing these to help end the war then I would agree with you but if you think they are showing them to help end the war then you are totally wrong. If they wanted to end the war then they wouldn't be putting out videos like this.

People like this sorry excuse for a human being gets off on death. If FOX really wants to help end the war then they need to put her on the unemployment line.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: UnBreakable

Relax Francis, that wasn't aimed at you just hit the wrong reply button.


Am I the only one that remembers the White House asking people not to watch the previous videos? Maybe it wasn't an "official" ban but when the State Dep. says if you watch it you could be considered a terror suspect it adds up to the same thing.

For one one reason or other those warnings weren't issued regarding this video and FOX News didn't make that call.

When did the state dept say if you watch it then you are a terror suspect? Did FOX tell you that?


www.economicpolicyjournal.com...

85 Things that Might Get You on a DHS Terrorist Watch List

55) Exhibit preoccupation with press coverage of terrorist attacks.

71) Exhibit ire at global policies of the U.S.
edit on 6-2-2015 by Khaleesi because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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gawker.com...

Maybe kind of "off-topic". But "isis" are like Internet trolls and using Twitter to get media like CNN attention!

And medias enter theire game... The end of this article is :

"The only step remaining is the jump from Twitter to television, from a jihadi booster's screen to CNN's. Alkhouri says that the media itself makes this easy for ISIS: "a big number of followers from [ISIS] accounts are actually analysts and journalists...a lot of [media] end up giving a voice to the jihadis through RT." Alkhouri admits there's "a very fine line between reporting the news and distributing the propaganda.""


Sorry i'm not english btw! ( French
)



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:34 PM
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Looks like many people are worried about the Democrat Administration invading the Middle East.

We've seen many deflections lately.

It's the old trick of blaming somebody else.




posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Khaleesi

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: UnBreakable

Relax Francis, that wasn't aimed at you just hit the wrong reply button.


Am I the only one that remembers the White House asking people not to watch the previous videos? Maybe it wasn't an "official" ban but when the State Dep. says if you watch it you could be considered a terror suspect it adds up to the same thing.

For one one reason or other those warnings weren't issued regarding this video and FOX News didn't make that call.

When did the state dept say if you watch it then you are a terror suspect? Did FOX tell you that?


www.economicpolicyjournal.com...

85 Things that Might Get You on a DHS Terrorist Watch List

55) Exhibit preoccupation with press coverage of terrorist attacks.

71) Exhibit ire at global policies of the U.S.

Then why isn't FOX on the terror suspect list and shut down? Even the link you provided can't even back up the article it just gives a link to the FBI website.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like many people are worried about the Democrat Administration invading the Middle East.

We've seen many deflections lately.

It's the old trick of blaming somebody else.




You mean like the deflection you are trying to do? Obama only invaded one country and that was Libya. Now let's see what party was the President from that invaded all those other countries?



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:42 PM
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Don't watch them I already am fully aware of what the enemy does,you need not disturb your eyes with such carnage.
I guess that's our job.
Too bad really I would hope my country would be sapred such sights but the APATHY and ranchor of progressive voices are far worse.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: buster2010
Rooseveldt deliberately let a bombing happen.
Eisenhower took orders from the uN to stop commies
Kennedy,Democrat: Vietnam
Reagan Grenada,invaded by cuban forces,covertly
Bush('s) did Panama,Desert Storm and the 2nd gulf war. ALL authorized by CONGRESS

the rest were either police actions or presidential manuevering. NOT authorized by congress.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:52 PM
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originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
Republican TV =>
Warmongering interests =>
Raise fear and anger as much as you can




That's not surprising from Fox. Recent studies have shown that self-described "conservatives" react more to fear:



Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University College London found that self-described conservative students had a larger amygdala (link is external) than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with complexity.

Psychology Today

They've also done studies watching peoples eyes to see responses to stimuli:



For example, in a study published in January, a team led by psychologist Michael Dodd and political scientist John Hibbing of the University of Nebraska–Lincoln found that when viewing a collage of photographs, conservatives' eyes unconsciously lingered 15 percent longer on repellent images, such as car wrecks and excrement—suggesting that conservatives are more attuned than liberals to assessing potential threats.

Scientific American

So it makes sense that Fox news uses fear mongering, it sells to it's demographic.

Another interesting thing is, if someone is conservative -- using mindful meditation can actually shrink their amygdala and make them become more liberal:



MRI scans show that after an eight-week course of mindfulness practice, the brain’s “fight or flight” center, the amygdala, appears to shrink. This primal region of the brain, associated with fear and emotion, is involved in the initiation of the body’s response to stress.

As the amygdala shrinks, the pre-frontal cortex – associated with higher order brain functions such as awareness, concentration and decision-making – becomes thicker.

Scientific American

So, if you don't want to turn into a liberal -- DO NOT MEDITATE!



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: buster2010
Which president keeps releasing enemy combatants and terrorists back on to the battlefield? Rel eased Gitmo Prisoners return to the battlefield

Obama's sympathies lie with Muslims Theocrats (remember the now defeated Arab Spring), it is his administration that is pushing for massive destabilization of the ME, by pulling US Forces out to enable groups like ISIS to take control. Obama is doing everything in his power to finance extreme Islamists (like the half a billion dollars he wanted to give directly to ISIS a year ago) and topple Assad to further increase destabilization and increase the stranglehold of groups like ISIS.

and nasty old FOX news didn't make that up.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis


Because it needs to be seen.

This isn't the scary monster in Doctor Who that can't harm you because you're hiding behind a pillow. This isn't the boogeyman under the bed who can't get you if you hide under the blankets.

These people will do this to him. They would do this to you. Not pretend, not playfighting, but for real, and simply because you are not them.

The ones who are doing you the greatest disservice are the ones who want to hide the risks that you face. Sure, they might not be immediate risks, there might not be jihadists wandering the streets of your city with a can of gas and a zippo... but they are more motivated to create that situation than you are to stop it. The sooner you understand that - and not in some abstract or theoretical way, but in a real, in-your-face, cant-avoid-the-truth way - then the more motivated you will be to prevent it ever happening.


No, this is a boogeyman halfway across the world that cannot possibly do this to you because you are not in Iraq or Syria.
This is a boogeyman created by the power vacuum of the US, Israel and UK's making.
This is a boogeyman that we need the Muslim world to play the greatest role in dealing with. We burned our bridges with the Muslim world, when we started bombing men, women and children out of existence, literally burning alive and blowing babies to pieces on the altar of oil dominance and geopolitics. Where were the images of that on daytime TV?
Where are the war crimes tribunals against Tony Blair and GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz et al.?

Yes we need to show the truth on TV, in your face truth. ALL TRUTH, not just the one sided truth that gets an emotional response towards some elitist goal of global domination.

We need to get our own houses in order before we go around evicting and destroying others.



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: OneManArmy
You say-"No, this is a boogeyman halfway across the world that cannot possibly do this to you because you are not in Iraq or Syria."
Do you live in an alternate universe where 9/11 didn't happen?

Go ask elderly Polish Jews about the "boogeyman" being too far away to get you. Go to Pearl Harbor and tell the sailors there that there is no need to fear a "boogeyman" half way across the world.

If we burned our bridges with the Muslim world why are so many of our allies Muslim? ( Jordan, Saudi Arabia,Bahrain,U.A.E.,etc.)

"Blowing babies to pieces"... your hyperbole is leaking, that kind of obvious drivel only works on the weak minded, you won't find too many of them on ATS, funny that you then go on to say "not just the one sided truth that gets an emotional response towards some elitist goal"...
" literally burning alive and blowing babies to pieces on the altar of oil dominance and geopolitics. Where were the images of that on daytime TV? "

How can you call for images of dead babies on daytime TV in a thread bashing FOX news for having a video available on a website?
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edit on 6-2-2015 by abe froman because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
The lil baby public must be sheltered from reality in your view, that seems to be your message.
People need to get angry about things that deserve getting angry about.
Besides, people with your extreme point of view that hates anything not bowing at the liberal alter would never watch what Fox shows anyway so why you mad bro?


Bahaha, I guess that's why the MSM is also showing the brutal aftermaths of what's happening in Ukraine, right?

Ohh wait no, ukraine is not on the borders of the US while jordan... wait, what?


What exactly is the difference, between a civilian woman dying on the road, being filmed by another civilian in her final moments, after being shelled by their government, and a man being executed in war?


Here's a clue; there is none. But when it comes to the agenda, there obviously IS.



Do not care when it comes to actual innocent civilians being killed!
Here, a man who went to look for danger was murdered, be mad about that instead!



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: xuenchen
Looks like many people are worried about the Democrat Administration invading the Middle East.

We've seen many deflections lately.

It's the old trick of blaming somebody else.




You mean like the deflection you are trying to do? Obama only invaded one country and that was Libya. Now let's see what party was the President from that invaded all those other countries?

>>>>>

But Obama *IS* bombing ISIS in Iraq and Syria !!!!!!!!

google: " u.s. isis bombing "

>>>>




US Airstrikes Syria - Bombing ISIS Islamic State - Bomb Attacks ISIL Iraq!!


Now who's the sugar daddy



posted on Feb, 6 2015 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: OneManArmy

originally posted by: EvillerBob

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis


Because it needs to be seen.

This isn't the scary monster in Doctor Who that can't harm you because you're hiding behind a pillow. This isn't the boogeyman under the bed who can't get you if you hide under the blankets.

These people will do this to him. They would do this to you. Not pretend, not playfighting, but for real, and simply because you are not them.

The ones who are doing you the greatest disservice are the ones who want to hide the risks that you face. Sure, they might not be immediate risks, there might not be jihadists wandering the streets of your city with a can of gas and a zippo... but they are more motivated to create that situation than you are to stop it. The sooner you understand that - and not in some abstract or theoretical way, but in a real, in-your-face, cant-avoid-the-truth way - then the more motivated you will be to prevent it ever happening.


No, this is a boogeyman halfway across the world that cannot possibly do this to you because you are not in Iraq or Syria.
This is a boogeyman created by the power vacuum of the US, Israel and UK's making.
This is a boogeyman that we need the Muslim world to play the greatest role in dealing with. We burned our bridges with the Muslim world, when we started bombing men, women and children out of existence, literally burning alive and blowing babies to pieces on the altar of oil dominance and geopolitics. Where were the images of that on daytime TV?
Where are the war crimes tribunals against Tony Blair and GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz et al.?

Yes we need to show the truth on TV, in your face truth. ALL TRUTH, not just the one sided truth that gets an emotional response towards some elitist goal of global domination.

We need to get our own houses in order before we go around evicting and destroying others.




DING DING DING DING DING


Is it too early for a post of the year award? Mehh, I'll offer it anyway!

Could not have said it like that myself, congrats for boiling it down!



The people on ATS who believe violence is the answer to violence, are seriously the most shocking and surprising to me. Proof that even the biggest ignoramus can find his ways to ATS, and can blatantly ignore it's credo.

Or perhaps some people just feel too comfortable letting their animalistic side take over when it comes to judging the worst humanity has to offer, foolishly believing that THEIR violence is any difference than the one they are condoning.



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