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The Truth is Unspeakable; American Sniper unloads on 'American Sniper'

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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: Answer

Are there some kind of INFRASONICS working on cellphones that cause loss of COGNITIVE thinking?
THEY ALL just parrot the same thing ,JUST like the hippies.




posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:05 AM
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No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

I think maybe something was still alive in the sniper that the training and conditioning didn't totally destroy, there was still one cell of humanity left alive in him.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: andy1972

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

I think maybe something was still alive in the sniper that the training and conditioning didn't totally destroy, there was still one cell of humanity left alive in him.


This thread is ridiculous.

All warriors are human beings and they're affected by killing just like anyone else. There is no training that eliminates a person's sense of humanity.

Some of you REALLY need to stop believing everything you see in movies.
edit on 2/7/2015 by Answer because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: Answer
There is no training that eliminates a person's sense of humanity.


Naw, it wasn't until after the plutonium shots that I lost my sense of humanity.

I'm pretty sure it was that.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:07 AM
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Nah.


edit on 7/2/15 by Astyanax because: post removed. By author.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: cuckooold




posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

I have this theory that the army feeds you awful food and keeps you doing B##LS##T details SIMPLY to keep you appropriately pissed off and WANT to kill someone for the crap you have been through.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:14 PM
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a reply to: fluff007




the film is propoganda! I would not watch it.


So how do you know it's propaganda if you haven't seen it?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: EyesOpenMouthShut
Honestly, if a person hasn't been there and done that they shouldn't be voicing opinion in judgement on anyone who has.

There is nothing glorious about taking another human life. Even in self defense or the defense of another it feels bad, one of the worse feelings you can have. The realization of what you have just done is sickening and you won't forget it.

let that sink in


I stongly disagree. I can pass judgement on a rapist though I've never raped, and I sure as hell can have an opinion on it. I also have an opinion on soldiers killing today and blindly following orders they signed up to take. My opinion is that it is wrong to take a life, pretty much under any circumstance that isn't a completely unpreventable act of self defense. War doesn't fit that criteria in my mind, not anymore at least. Why can't I say that just because I haven't done it myself? I think that gives me a less bias opinion truthfully.
edit on 7-2-2015 by dr1234 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: cuckooold



Not a hero of mine, I have no idea who he is. I know men and women in the armed forces, ain't nothing heroic about killing. The fact that anyone thinks there is is a testament to the incredible system of indoctrination goverments have perfected over the years.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: andy1972

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

I think maybe something was still alive in the sniper that the training and conditioning didn't totally destroy, there was still one cell of humanity left alive in him.


This thread is ridiculous.

All warriors are human beings and they're affected by killing just like anyone else. There is no training that eliminates a person's sense of humanity.

Some of you REALLY need to stop believing everything you see in movies.


I agree that all soldiers are human and are affected by killing somewhere along the range experienced by other humans. However, you are not taking into account psychopaths/sociopaths who have no empathy for others. They exist. Some of them are in the military.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: dr1234

Because your bias disregards the existance of conflict and dennigrates those who volunteer in your place for what WILL be done wether or not it is bad to you.
It shows a limited knowledge of life and what happens.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Tangerine

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: andy1972

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.

I think maybe something was still alive in the sniper that the training and conditioning didn't totally destroy, there was still one cell of humanity left alive in him.


This thread is ridiculous.

All warriors are human beings and they're affected by killing just like anyone else. There is no training that eliminates a person's sense of humanity.

Some of you REALLY need to stop believing everything you see in movies.


I agree that all soldiers are human and are affected by killing somewhere along the range experienced by other humans. However, you are not taking into account psychopaths/sociopaths who have no empathy for others. They exist. Some of them are in the military.
the vast majority aren't though. What is your point?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

Already stated.
Narcissistic personalities don't like to die regardless of the killing done,their EGOS can't take it a good soldier has to gamble with their life.
They don't like to follow or take commands either.
If one shows up in a line unit and they "READ" as crazy they would be outed and NO one would patrol with them or might frag them.
You learn to read people REAL well when you could die.
edit on 7-2-2015 by cavtrooper7 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: dr1234

originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: cuckooold



Not a hero of mine, I have no idea who he is. I know men and women in the armed forces, ain't nothing heroic about killing. The fact that anyone thinks there is is a testament to the incredible system of indoctrination goverments have perfected over the years.
that isn't down to government indoctrination that is down to human nature. The idea of there being a glory of sorts in fighting and dying in warfare predates any modern government by thousands of years.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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I have mentioned him before but my freinds dad was a sniper.

Served in falklands, gulf war one , ireland at the peak of the troubles and I think bosnea..

He did his job. He killed a good number.

But he never boosted about, never celebrated it.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: deadeyedick

Oh, I agree. My views on warfare is considered "too extreme" by most.

Remove the media, unleash and unshackle the Military and go scorched Earth.

No rebuilding crap with multi-billion dollar contracts. No hearts and minds.

Shock and awe. Kill and level everything. Then go home and enjoy a snickers.


But, there is too much money to be made doing it how we currently are.

Sad, as my way of fighting would save money, lives and time. But is considered as savage by most.

Oh well.


And the civilians?

Especialy in a country like Iraq you haf no buisness being in?


Please dont tell me you view the wiliam caleys of the world as heros?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

AND how is you aren't speaking GERMAN then?



That was a true war of defence.


Not even close to comparison to Iraq.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 05:18 PM
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If we rounded up all men ages fifty and higher war would cease. Try telling an old man, or yelling, to go do a bunch of crap and kill a bunch of people for "country.". He'd most likely laugh in the sergeants face if not spit. It's a bunch of crazy people doing and training kids that do not know better and very niave to the world. War is literally #ing nuts, and if this stupid 'civilized' system we have in place continues whole generations will know nothing but war, death and destruction. We've made it to the twenty first century, doesn't anyone else but me think we should...oh, I don't know....act like it?

I mean the Air Force and Army go from highschool to highschool for a very good reason.....children arn't the best thinkers and easily follow.
edit on 7-2-2015 by Flesh699 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Tangerine

Already stated.
Narcissistic personalities don't like to die regardless of the killing done,their EGOS can't take it a good soldier has to gamble with their life.
They don't like to follow or take commands either.
If one shows up in a line unit and they "READ" as crazy they would be outed and NO one would patrol with them or might frag them.
You learn to read people REAL well when you could die.


So there are no sociopaths in the military. Yeah, right. You don't seem to realize that narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathy are two different things, by the way.
edit on 7-2-2015 by Tangerine because: (no reason given)




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