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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: 8675309jenny
Yeah. Except that no one, including the President, compared ISIS to Jim Crow ...
Read the fricking speech.
Violent people working in organized groups throughout history have used religion to excuse their actions. The President didn't single out Christians, and was, in fact, a lot nicer than I would have been, because you don't have to go all the way back to the Crusades and the Inquisition to find disgusting examples of violence, murder and mayhem being committed in the name of Jesus (if you consider "Christian" related to his name).
This country was founded on the US Constitution, which clearly, as Jefferson, Adams, Monroe and others said, erects a separation between Church and State. In fact, that separation was intended to keep RELIGIONS from taking over POLITICS has they had done across human history.
Wrapping onesself in the flag and carrying a cross does not excuse the acts of history; you may not like the realities of what happened after the Civil War, but denying it happened is simply asinine. (I'm also looking for the word "genocide" in the President's speech ... and I'm not finding it BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE. Read the speech.)
From 1882-1968, 4,743 lynchings occurred in the United States. Of these people that were lynched 3,446 were black. The blacks lynched accounted for 72.7% of the people lynched. These numbers seem large, but it is known that not all of the lynchings were ever recorded. Out of the 4,743 people lynched only 1,297 white people were lynched. That is only 27.3%. Many of the whites lynched were lynched for helping the black or being anti lynching and even for domestic crimes.
Who is race-baiting again? Prove that Nelson Mandela (who I don't think was a saint) burned anyone alive. And even so, how does that relate to Jim Crow or ISIS ... is it important because Mandela was African and Black? Who is race-baiting again?
The President's speech is lamenting violence based in religion. All violence, all religions.
Of course, the logical argument (which POTUS didn't make because he is a Christian) is to get rid of religion entirely ... but that is, of course, far too reasonable.
Read the speech.