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Paul says Jesus is the Devil in Acts

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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: greyer

Nah, you said enough. Would you like your cross used or new? In the shape of an I or a T or something in-between perhaps (IS seems to prefer the sitting T)? The Roman cross made popular by the Catholic Heresy and carried onwards by Protestants of all denominations? The burden of the Cross, is not the burden of losing as you proclaim, but the burdens of royalty and rule. Look up divine burden, it's actually a term. Those who rule the world carry the curse of the cross. If they don't, they cheat, and must drag their cross through Hell on their way home.

Though it may sound like a good idea to a Christian who has been indoctrinated in the code and doctrine, that human sacrifice has profound and doubtless positive divine effects on Christian wellbeing, and somehow done according to some occult doctrine only secularly evident in Church doctrine-- that Jesus was a willing and perfect sacrifice.... It's awful, but your scapegoat- and crowd going-with-the-flow mentality is hardly a good strategy in the long run. The Cross of the Lord is the Sword of Damocles.
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Utnapisjtim




Aye. You can't choose ancient blood-feud enemies. You can save their lives, and set them free, but sometimes, the spirit of the feud is draconic and ancient as well. The Devil doesn't run the world. Jesus does.


I suggest you take that up with the wicked one him self when you see him.
It's obvious now you prescribe to the black is really white, upside is down,
look'n in mirrors and bass ackwards, good is evil mentallity and are far beyond
the reach of knowing anything to be the truth. Twisted. God help you man.
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:18 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
The Devil doesn't run the world. Jesus does.



Satan possesses the power of this world.
-The Epistle of Barnabas


I would say power or 'powers,' so we can say the devil is behind all controls and controlling in the world, one definition for the opposite of controlling in the dictionary is 'freedom.' We have to remember that we are talking in spiritual terms, because in that case freedom is more important than love, freedom for the soul is the opposite of being bound, and the origin of the word sin comes from this being bound to not be able to complete. It is like momentarily stopping the soul, and the soul rebukes us for it.
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 02:03 AM
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a reply to: greyer

The devil, may have ruled the world 2000 years ago. These days Jesus is the dude. You are lost in your, eh, Barnabas? That's Islam, man?!?



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 07:00 AM
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The quote below is something I wrote in another thread before I posted this thread here, it tells the story slightly differently. So that even the meek amongst us can see and inherit the Earth.


Thing is, that Jesus was like his Father-- a Father. His son, Bar-Jesus (Strong's G919 Βαριησοῦ* Acts 13:6), turned out to become a magician settling in Crete, whom Paul calls «son of the Devil» (Jesus is the Devil, Paul?) in Acts 13. We can only hope it is a friendly and ironic salute. Anyway Paul demonstrates his latest trick with what I believe was 'the spirit of blindness' and 'the water of life', methanol and ethanol made with an alambique like the one below perhaps. Since he claims the blindness effect is momentary we can only assume he knew how to cure him and actually managed to do cure him.


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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 07:44 AM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Utnapisjtim




Aye. You can't choose ancient blood-feud enemies. You can save their lives, and set them free, but sometimes, the spirit of the feud is draconic and ancient as well. The Devil doesn't run the world. Jesus does.


I suggest you take that up with the wicked one him self when you see him.
It's obvious now you prescribe to the black is really white, upside is down,
look'n in mirrors and bass ackwards, good is evil mentallity and are far beyond
the reach of knowing anything to be the truth. Twisted. God help you man.


OK, can some of you guys please explain how all of the mostly Christian nations of the Western world are ruled by Satan? That's what IS believes and wants the world to believe. The world is controlled by a highly Christian-Humanist group of people and powers. Hey, my nation's flag even has a huge cross smack in the middle. Who are the satans who rule the world? Oh, that's right, they aren't really Christians, right? It is somehow impossible to mix fainting before pastor Dandy and carry the cross of presidency? Who has got this upside down. Please follow a bit longer, I'll make a diagram, you guys love those... 2 min.... there....


See?
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: Utnapisjtim

The greatest good can be used to become the greatest evil.

Just as the greatest sinners can become the greatest saints: St. Mary Magdalene, St. Francis Assisi, St. Matthew, etc. the list goes on.

Likewise the good can become the worst.



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: greyer

The devil, may have ruled the world 2000 years ago. These days Jesus is the dude. You are lost in your, eh, Barnabas? That's Islam, man?!?


It's early Christian. They used that epistle in the early Christian church.

But, I agree the scripture doesn't mean anything. Just because I read through the whole epistle last night and it is complete blasphemy. It was a Gentile writing, not even close to how the Christian Jews would have it. But everything we have that survived is a Gentile writing. Some of it keeps record of the Jewish perspective but every piece of scripture inside and outside of the bible we have today is a Gentile writing. Therefore it is going to be biased.

What does not make sense is that Barnabas was a counterpart of Paul, yet Peter claims that Barnabas was with the 12 as a substitute for Judas, and that Barnabas was with them in their persuading of the high priest Caiaphas. Yet Barnabas says something completely different than what all the other apostles said:


`For the very fact, 'said he, `that He assumed a Jewish body, and was born among the Jews, how has not this incited us all to love Him?


This seemed to be an error of the Gentile whom wrote the literature on account of Peter. The high priest Caiaphas would not have had any argument about Jesus being a Jew, in fact he would have expected the messiah to be a Jew. None of the other apostle argued this because it is completely out of context. Yet if Barnabas was speaking to his Gentile world than yes, he would have made that comment. And we know that Paul and Barnabas created Pauline Christianity.

That is the truth, where did you think Islam fits into that?



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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Let me share a lie, because when we have a contradiction it means somebody is either lying or they just do not know the truth.


Joseph (Barnabas) was pious, he frequented the Temple, he strictly observed the fasts and avoided youthful distractions.
oca.org...



The fasts of the Jews are not true fasts, nor acceptable to God
-Epistle of Barnabas


Barnabas goes on to quite Isaiah, which talks about the teachings of Jesus. But he equates it all into belief. See, he does quote the teachings of Jesus, but he is not specific on what to do. He is talking against the Jews, but if he was really 'with' Peter he would understand that they still adhere to fasting - And they take into consideration the new covenant.

See, this Gentile twisting of the law is extremely clever, as we said before - they were extremely clever in taking the Essenes and obliterating them from history, taking all the faithful for there own financial gain and population control.

Let me quote another that you would NEVER here from a true Christian.


Understand, then, you children of gladness,
that we might know to whom we ought for everything to render


That sounds so much like a Gentile and so little like a Jew it is incredible. Just please don't forget that this all started from Jews. These holy near ancient Jews would have never addressed people as 'children of gladness.' Pauline Christianity is all about faith and happiness, but the true Jewish teaching of Christianity are all about hard work. You do not venture down the WAY of God happily, it is very difficult. But it is for this hard work that we are rewarded in spirit - after our spirit has been trampled on by the unfaithful.



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I know I won't convince you of anything Ut. But I
will let Mick try.



It's bloody true that whats confusing you is just the nature of his game.
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
-James 4



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: OptimusSubprime
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

Do you think that Jesus (the Son of God Jesus) was the only person named Jesus? What an absurd argument. Did you know that Jesus had TWO disciples named Judas? Here is the Greek word for Jesus, as in Jesus Christ.
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He also had a step brother named Judas Ben Joseph of Nazareth. Jesus should actually be known as 'Jesus ben (AUO: absolute unbounded oneness) of the multi-universes'.
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: backcase

Everything with Jesus has to be bloody impossible and a miracle, right? Well, guess what, Jesus is a main patriarch of European royalty. What could possibly be a bigger miracle than Jesus actually becoming a father, not just of his sons and daughters, his closest family, no, but his offspring basically owns and rules the Western world, and have been doing so for nearly two millennia.

You are not saying/suggesting Jesus was the direct spawning of the Hibiru/Annunaki and became father icon of/to Western world ideology?
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: Utnapisjtim


Utnapisjitim: I don't have to reveal the whereabouts of the Sons of Jesus and the Kingdoms of the world to the Enemy. That would be rather stupid wouldn't it?

No, not stupid; and why not write a new revolutioary "Epistle". If you published these truths you could rule the world (#1 on Satan's version of the New York Times "Best Seller List"). Like giving up the names of deep cover assets (Aldrich Ames style) to be dispatched with immediately.
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
The quote below is something I wrote in another thread before I posted this thread here, it tells the story slightly differently. So that even the meek amongst us can see and inherit the Earth.


Thing is, that Jesus was like his Father-- a Father. His son, Bar-Jesus (Strong's G919 Βαριησοῦ* Acts 13:6), turned out to become a magician settling in Crete, whom Paul calls «son of the Devil» (Jesus is the Devil, Paul?) in Acts 13. We can only hope it is a friendly and ironic salute. Anyway Paul demonstrates his latest trick with what I believe was 'the spirit of blindness' and 'the water of life', methanol and ethanol made with an alambique like the one below perhaps. Since he claims the blindness effect is momentary we can only assume he knew how to cure him and actually managed to do cure him.


I don't think so and didn't the first time you posted this pic. Its a 'nettie pot' used for cleaning out the sinuses of anyone infected with "XXX Pinocchio syndrome".
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posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Thanks for the laugh!



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: greyer

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: greyer

The devil, may have ruled the world 2000 years ago. These days Jesus is the dude. You are lost in your, eh, Barnabas? That's Islam, man?!?


It's early Christian. They used that epistle in the early Christian church.


Hehe, I am talking about the Gospel of Barnabas, and mind you, Barnabas was Paul's henchman. The gospel referenced in the Koran. For all we know, the Syrian war started by the release of it from some Islamic library, because of inconsistencies between the Koran and the Barnabas Gospel. It is written in Syriac Aramaic and it is dynamite. It says Jesus wasn't even crucified, but released as another was judged in his place. This is the Jesus whom the Bible calls Barrabas or Bar-Abbas (Son of the Father) in Aramaic. The man who was released instead of "Jesus of Nazareth". It's a Polish Reichstag, just like when the blood was spilled at Yisreel. Destinies interwoven and knit like a val-knot. A bloody mess. Literally.



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Utnapisjtim

I know I won't convince you of anything Ut. But I
will let Mick try.



It's bloody true that whats confusing you is just the nature of his game.


Hmmm. Sure it's not me confusing you?



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Can you please tell me which thread you posted my text in? You keep manipulating the quotes again, and you know that pisses me off. If you got yourself an alambique you could probably afford just about anything in the world. You are drunk as drowning and keep ranting away pressing my buttons, try some methanol next time, it's cheeper than normal liquer, you can buy it at any paint or utility store



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Can you please tell me which thread you posted my text in? You keep manipulating the quotes again, and you know that pisses me off. If you got yourself an alambique you could probably afford just about anything in the world. You are drunk as drowning and keep ranting away pressing my buttons, try some methanol next time, it's cheeper than normal liquer, you can buy it at any paint or utility store

But I am not you; YOU in your unique being-ness are responsible for your own forgotten strategic text placements; self determination using the "#note to myself: please remember this" warning may have been neglected/overlooked.
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