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Why did God, in foreknowledge of man, still create man?

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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: windword

Actually it is quite a common occurrence and supposedly it still occurs that she gives her locutions.

As for goddesses,I don't know. Mary presents herself as the Mother of Jesus.

But this is a discussion for a different thread, Is like to hear your story about the ghost you saw.




posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: Tangerine


If you believe there is a God that is your truth. Correct. It is not everyone's truth. You have zero testable evidence proving that God exists. Clearly, you do not understand the scientific method.

You are correct. I do not understand the secular Humanistic scientific method. Truth means truth in all aspects of the mind. It does not depend upon what is is.




Perhaps you would do well to learn what the scientific method is so that you can converse about it.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: windword

Well she stated who she is and her role in the Catholic church. Also I have a picture of the association holding hundreds of Rosary bead necklaces.


OK. I'm the goddess Isis. Does may claim mean that's a fact? Can't you see that you're basing everything on belief? That's fine, but it doesn't make it fact.

What does the number of people holding rosary beads prove?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:33 PM
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Perhaps God was compelled to create that which could be created and all must follow laws that God is also bound to follow.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: Tangerine

I'm not trying to prove that God exists. I'm sort of past that by now and I don't want to go back to it.

There are many other threads that deal with this, hop to one of those.


But you've put yourself in a position of having to prove that God exists because you've repeatedly claimed that God exists. That's how it works: claims of fact must be supported by testable evidence. If you state something as a belief, you're exempt from having to prove it.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: backcase

You are the one who brought up apparitions as proof enough for you. I only replied, asking a few questions and pointing out the fact that people have seen ghosts and have reported also seeing the gods and goddesses of their belief systems.

I do believe in the spiritual hierarchy, just not in a "GOD". As above, so below. Just like here on earth, we have teachers and masters who have risen to higher levels, but no one on Earth is GOD. No one in the Universe, or outside the Universe, is GOD either, imo.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine




OK. I'm the goddess Isis. Does may claim mean that's a fact? Can't you see that you're basing everything on belief? That's fine, but it doesn't make it fact.


I understand that. Okay, you claim to be Isis. You're real, but you're lying. You're not Isis.

If there is a spiritual plain, it may be abundant with liars, powerful liars.

I don't believe in gods and goddesses, but I believe in liars. As above, so below.

LOL I believe in reincarnation. I believe in ghosts. Take it with a grain of salt.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Tangerine




OK. I'm the goddess Isis. Does may claim mean that's a fact? Can't you see that you're basing everything on belief? That's fine, but it doesn't make it fact.


I understand that. Okay, you claim to be Isis. You're real, but you're lying. You're not Isis.

If there is a spiritual plain, it may be abundant with liars, powerful liars.

I don't believe in gods and goddesses, but I believe in liars. As above, so below.

LOL I believe in reincarnation. I believe in ghosts. Take it with a grain of salt.





You understand that but, apparently, backcase doesn't understand that. Or, perhaps she does. I'm waiting for her/his response.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

I believe it is a fact that God exists.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: windword

"You are the one who brought up apparitions as proof enough for you."

To be honest, I do not think that proof would make anyone believe in God. Some people could have God appear in front of them and still not believe. I do not think that I could not believe in God on a basis of just proof, I need that connection which was given by God to believe in Him. I need that love for Him which He placed in my heart.

Thank you for posting though, I do appreciate the sincerity of your words when you post. I will pray for you.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: Tangerine

I believe it is a fact that God exists.


Fact is never based on belief. Fact is based on testable evidence only. When testable evidence makes something fact, it ceases to be belief. I really don't understand why this is so difficult to understand.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:37 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

I don't understand how you don't understand that I'm half messing with you. I state it's a belief and you still keep it going, lol, I don't get it.

Your obsessed with nothing, do something productive, read a factual book about science. damn.



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: Tangerine

I don't understand how you don't understand that I'm half messing with you. I state it's a belief and you still keep it going, lol, I don't get it.

Your obsessed with nothing, do something productive, read a factual book about science. damn.


Oh, I do get that you're half messing with me. The problem is that you're half not as demonstrated by many of your posts. I have read books about science. That's how I know what the scientific method is and don't confuse fact with belief. May I respectuflly suggest that you acquaint yourself with the distinction, too?



posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: Tangerine

eh,

a pathetically boring conversation, I'm done with it.
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posted on Feb, 7 2015 @ 11:53 PM
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originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: Tangerine

eh,

a pathetically boring conversation, I'm done with it.


OK, but would you accept a photo of Santa if I offered it as proof that reindeer fly? It would be a peace offering.



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: InTheLight

Thanks for your contribution.

I don't think that God is compelled to anything. Jesus came back to life after three days, raised Lazarus from the dead after he had decomposed, and did many other miracles which do not abide by the natural laws.



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: backcase
a reply to: InTheLight

Thanks for your contribution.

I don't think that God is compelled to anything. Jesus came back to life after three days, raised Lazarus from the dead after he had decomposed, and did many other miracles which do not abide by the natural laws.


Really? Where's the testable evidence proving these whopping claims of fact? Or are you just going to attempt to support these whopping claims with other whopping claims?



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: backcase
I will pray for you.


I think I can speak for WW, Tang, & myself when I say this:

Dear god, please don't.



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: Eunuchorn

You just signed yourself up!



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