I have a few thoughts on this issue I'd like to share.
1) ATS is a business, so they need to make a profit. Maybe someone
needs to pay rent and buy groceries from the proceeds of this site,
and it isn't just a side job. I can sympathize. I once supported myself
primarily with my DOT.com startup for two years when I was
unemployed. And for ten years my 'hobby startup' made more
money than my day job. I can really empathize with business
decisions being made.
2) ATS offers a LOT of free content. A TON. Nobody has to pay
a penny if they don't wan to do so. That is admirable, and
wise perhaps. The 'Freemium' model might be better, but it's
not my business. (that being, you get so much free, and to
get 'premium features' you need to pay something. It's really
common. Really ATS has been very generous for a long time.
3) No, I'm not a suck up. In fact I'll now say some not so
4) Those side bar traffic funnelers really irritate the hell
out of me. I click them by accident an average of every
5 minutes. I'd find a piece of software to override them,
but i'm not that much of a killjoy. My accidental clicks
may bring ATS money, and they deserve their money.
But my desire to use the site has declined maybe 25%
due to those side bars. That's my major beef about
5) The NLBS cotent? I don't know if it's any good or not.
I haven't watched any of it, and don't really plan on
doing so. It's not for any silly reason. It's quite logical.
I've researched nearly every topic that NLBS has done
so far, and I have my opinion. Now, I suppose if it said
"Elvis/Hitler spotted at Denny's, I might watch one for
6) Does NLBS degrade the ATS experience? Maybe/Maybe
not. I do know that I work (my day job) for a food company,
and that at one time that food company opened a restaurant
chain of it's own. Shortly after that, the food company
started losing a lot of customers, as the customers
were angry for having the food company 'compete with them'.
I'd say the same logic might apply for ATS. The primary
'customers' of ATS are the members, and I can certainly
see that some might hold a similar mind-set. Of course
you can't please everybody, and points 1 and 2 apply
in any case.
7) And this is the most controversial point perhaps,
but this 'is' a conspiracy web site. It's a well known
fact, that various letter agencies have been infiltrating
groups as small as 10 people, groups such as spiritual
and UFO groups and various others, since the 40's
Now I'm not going to spin some massive tale on this point;
I'm not going to point to various people who once worked
for the CIA or whatever who are active on this site or anything
like that. But if a group of 10 people was infiltrated in 1947
because some guy said some nonsense about UFOs
(say George Adamski), then I'd imagine that the largest site
of it's kind on the Internet with 200,000 members would
(let's be serious) PROBABLY have some monitoring and even
social reaction research going on. It would be absurd to
Now whether this is true or not is not even my point;
I don't want to give offense; maybe NLBS and other
site features have nothing to do with anything like
this. But it's worth mentioning. My tin foil hat card
would be removed from me if I didn't mention it.
8) This is a fun note to end my reply with. Iv'e been
watching a few threads over the past year that I
am 100% certain has been 'jiggered with' for social
Watching the threads in question has been very
educational. In fact I've learned a lot about
disinfo tactics from them. So -- just like 'we'
are almost certainly in a giant petri dish here
and elsewhere on the Internet, 'they' are too..
as they stare at us to screw with our minds,
we can stare right back and screw with theirs
and enjoy their participation.
So no matter what NLBS is.. good, bad or
indifferent.. it can be learned from..
either directly or as an inverse study of
something 'being pushed on us'; so it's
good either way. I just wish the sidebar
click attractors would go away.. they
are supremely annoying for me anyway.
PS: One final comment
I suspect that I'd actually AGREE with many of the NLBS videos;
the anti-vaccination thing drives me crazy for example; there
is basically no science for that stand. Reptoid humans or
Annunaki or Watchers? No. Just no. Not if they supposedly
mated with human at any point. The human genome and other
genomes have been exhaustively mapped over time from pre-
human history. So I just want it to be clear.. that I don't buy
ANY of the standard nonsense (IMHO) and if NLBS helps
educate on some of those, that's a good thing.. at least if it
were standalone and not in any way associated with ATS.
Whether it's even appropriate for the original mission of ATS
is another question entirely. And of course its up to the owners
what the actual mission of ATS is now or will be. It need have
nothing to do with the desires of a majority of the members.
edit on 5-2-2015 by KellyPrettyBear because: Added PS