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posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by GLeamer


I am a battleship to the Crafts spitballs


What you are is a troll, and you've attempted to hijack practically every thread on this forum since you've been here. All you have done so far is the make the most childish and foolish of claims, all of which can be easily proven wrong via minimal research.

I don't know why you are obsessed with Masons, and I don't really care. I will, however, say that it is pleasing that the vast majority of non-Masons who have responded to you have also called your bluff. It seems you're not really fooling anyone.

Methinks your battleship was sunk before it was even christened.

Ciao.



[edit on 5-1-2005 by Masonic Light]




posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by GLeamer
If you look at the apron that Masons wear you will find the Skull and Bones


The Skull and Bones DO NOT have anything to do with that Yale Frat. club.

It means...

We be PIRATES don't ya know.

RRRRRRRRRR.


[edit on 1/5/2005 by cotwom]



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by cotwom
It means...

We be PIRATES don't ya know.

RRRRRRRRRR.


[edit on 1/5/2005 by cotwom]


So are you saying you know this guy.






posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by cotwom
It means...

We be PIRATES don't ya know.

RRRRRRRRRR.


[edit on 1/5/2005 by cotwom]


So are you saying you know this guy.






Aye!!!

That be Grand Master Jack!!!
Carribean Grand Lodge

RRRRRRRRRRR



BTW: He be the REAL Mastermind behind Starbucks.




[edit on 1/5/2005 by cotwom]



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 02:09 PM
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You mean there isn't a skull and bones on your apron?
That the symbols mean nothing?
What are you saying Mr Light (as in weight )
O ya the Masons are a great bunch of guys
Geometry is incidential and all who question your gang all lying , lazy, idiots
Thanks for posting everywhere you can
You're proving my point



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by GLeamer
You mean there isn't a skull and bones on your apron?
That the symbols mean nothing?


RRRRRR

There be no skull and bones on our aprons!!!
Of course the symbols means something!!!

Here's a page where masons can buy their aprons...
www.jpluther.com...

And if I overlooked one that had a skull and bones on it, it's because...

WE BE PIRATES!!!

RRRRRRRRRRRRR



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by cotwom


BTW: He be the REAL Mastermind behind Starbucks.



That was supposed to be a secret! Ye'll walk da plank fer dat one, matie!



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 03:44 PM
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i for one have never seen an apron with skull and bones on it. My apron has a compass and square with my lodge number, the wardens and office bearers have symbols of there station in the lodge but none with skull and bones. Can you tell us where you seen this or read about it? Regards



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by orangeman dave
i for one have never seen an apron with skull and bones on it. My apron has a compass and square with my lodge number, the wardens and office bearers have symbols of there station in the lodge but none with skull and bones. Can you tell us where you seen this or read about it? Regards


It is common to find a skull and crossbones on some aprons in France. For example, Voltaire's Apron had this symbol, as did Benjamin Franklin's Apron that he used while a member of the Lodge of Nine Muses in France. In France, they are called the "Emblems of Mortality", and are used to remind the Brethren that life is not permanent, so it is imperative to live in an honorable manner while we still can.

In the USA, most Master Masons wear plain white Aprons, except the Officers who wear Aprons that feature the badge of their Office. Past Masters generally wear Aprons with the Past Masters emblem, similar to my Avatar.



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 03:55 PM
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mm thanks for that masonic light, i have seen the skull and bones as well as the emblem eblematical of industry bh, 24 i g, 24 hS of the d and so on.



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 09:40 PM
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Getting so predictable I just don"t what to say
Gerore Washington's apron has skull and bones
I believe the masons acknowledge him as a mason
tracingboard.com...

There are other places where the skull and bone can be found on aprons

www.riverdalelodge.org...

It could be that these fine fellows are all blues -Why they wouldn't know this is beyond me -

18- Knight Rose Croix This degree emphasizes that life and its
strength come from God. ....

www.scottish-rite-mn.org...
The apron worn is of white leather or satin, bordered in red,

with a skull and cross-bones,
a red passion cross, and three red rosettes.

The grand jewel is a gold compass open a quarter circle.

A rose-cross is between the legs of the compass
and under it is a pelican, tearing its breast to feed
its seven young on the obverse and an eagle with wings
extended on the reverse.

On the circle are the letters I.N.R.I.

The Skull and bones perhaps is fading away -too many making the connection
Scottish Rites Is- the big time lodge thing- like a daddy and very old
The masons will disavow or deny
They deny connection to KKK
They start Foundations and other Societies then turn there backs and walk away - soon to disavow them.
The Royal Society is another example

I hope the reader can get by mason gang - I know theres a lot around and the post will all be like the last ones - just silly

There is a great body of work about masonry - much of it simply Mason properganda.

I will be posting more information latter
Peace and Prosperity



posted on Jan, 5 2005 @ 09:45 PM
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LMAO LOL You gotta be kidding me
I just noticed
this guy is from Scottland and doesn't have a clue _
O my goodness



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 12:40 AM
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Note to readers:

The Apron of the 18 of the Scottish Rite, S.J., USA, Mother Supreme Council of the World, does not have a skull and crossbones on it. A description of the Apron can be read here:

dcsr.org...

It is true that that particular apron of George Washington's had a skull and crossbones, but Gleamer neglected to mention that it was a gift to Washington from the Marquis de Lafayette, and was made by Madame Lafayette. The Apron was made under direction of Gen. Lafayette, and therefore contained the symbols of the French Rite, which I've already mentioned.

[edit on 6-1-2005 by Masonic Light]



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 07:14 AM
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Washingtons apron was given to him by Marquis de Lafayette
The mason string runs through all of human history
The Skull and Bones are the American freemason leaders/elite
The masons assure that a mason is suborinate to a higher ranked mason
The essence of it all so far is that masons will hide as much as possible
This Light (headed) fellow has ammended or ignored so many post its past my counting,

This is scottish rite page

www.scottish-rite-mn.org...

They say a skull and bones is on 18" apron , but Mr Light says no.
I don't know who to believe but then again its a mason



posted on Jan, 6 2005 @ 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by GLeamer
The Skull and Bones are the American freemason leaders/elite


Skull and Bones is a college fraternity from Yale. Try doing a quick ATS search you'll find all you need to know.

The masons assure that a mason is suborinate to a higher ranked mason

The highest ranked Mason is a Master Mason, that holding the 3rd degree. The degrees in the Scottish and York Rite, are additional, not mandatory and completely voluntary. A group trying to "take over the world" would surely enlist as many as possible not leave it up to their members discretion.


The essence of it all so far is that masons will hide as much as possible


The only reason you believe they are hiding anything is because they do not say yes GLeamer you are right.


This Light (headed) fellow has ammended or ignored so many post its past my counting,


Ignorance of post generally means it's been covered before numerous occassions. As for amendment I tend to do it quite often myself, type straight of, then read and think actually that is a bit off and go back and amend it.

Amendments don't really mean anything.


This is scottish rite page

www.scottish-rite-mn.org...

They say a skull and bones is on 18" apron , but Mr Light says no.
I don't know who to believe but then again its a mason


It is funny how their description states it but even their own picture does not depict the Skull and Bones on it, only the grand jewel.



posted on Jan, 7 2005 @ 12:18 AM
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Masonic Blight you are a fountain of propagana and mis information
He only hopes he can find some fresh blood



posted on Jan, 7 2005 @ 12:55 AM
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I believe it is time ot ignore gleamer



posted on Jan, 7 2005 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by 99CentsStore
I believe it is time ot ignore gleamer

Exactly, it useless even to try to convince him about anything.




posted on Jan, 7 2005 @ 10:29 PM
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What do you think?

cotwom, There be no skull and bones on our aprons!!!
Of course the symbols means something!!!


MasonicbLight,-It is common to find a skull and crossbones on some aprons in France
(NO mention of George Washington)

orangeman dave ,i for one have never seen an apron with skull and bones on it

Bondi, It is funny how their description states it but even their own picture does not depict the Skull and Bones on it, only the grand jewel.


99CentsStore, I believe it is time ot ignore gleamer

Agnis,Exactly, it useless even to try to convince him about anything


All agreed that the Skull and Bones did not exist on aprons and had no meaning to masons ( we will hear now about mortality) They forgot


www.mystae.com...

www.mastermason.com...


A good mason time line
www.heart7.net...

The masons know who Manley Hall is


Manley Hall became a leading proponent for the Bruton Vault as being the location of this sacred repository. His quest to protect it from falling into the wrong hands cost him his life, because he was strangled to death by two members of the Skull and Bones Society - Morgan Brandt and Daniel Fritz.


The French Connection -
In 1791, Pierre Charles L'Enfante(the designer, who was a Freemason), laid out Governmental Center of Washington, D.C.

The most telling thing is how they all didn't think of saying anything about it and wouldn't tell you now and won't tell anyone in the future
Secret Society Ya know



posted on Jan, 7 2005 @ 10:49 PM
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[edit on 1/7/2005 by cotwom]



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