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Conspiracy Theory Becomes Fact: Oil Collapse Is All About Crushing Russian Control Over Syria

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posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: sosobad

Considering the "sources" people have used to support their claims are in fact blogs I don't see anything to support the claims made.



I believe he actually quoted the articles from the blog so not so much his claims. Is there something in the t and c's stating you can't post anything from a blog?


Nope.. but a blog is not a news source. They are based on the authors opinions.




posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: sosobad

Considering the "sources" people have used to support their claims are in fact blogs I don't see anything to support the claims made.



I believe he actually quoted the articles from the blog so not so much his claims. Is there something in the t and c's stating you can't post anything from a blog?


Nope.. but a blog is not a news source. They are based on the authors opinions.


Huh dunno what you are getting at here , first you said it was bornagains opinion, l told you he quoted the pieces he read. Again is there anything in the t&c's against that? Intentionally trying to confuse? There is indeed mention of sources in the links in the op.

edit on 4-2-2015 by sosobad because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: sosobad

You asked about TnC and I stated Nope.

The sources are blogs.

I am not sure how you are getting confused with my response. Its straight forward.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: sosobad

You asked about TnC and I stated Nope.

The sources are blogs.

I am not sure how you are getting confused with my response. Its straight forward.



OK then, you done?



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes...

World Bank Whistleblower Karen Hudes Reveals How The Global Elite Rule The World



Karen Hudes is a graduate of Yale Law School and she worked in the legal department of the World Bank for more than 20 years. In fact, when she was fired for blowing the whistle on corruption inside the World Bank, she held the position of Senior Counsel. She was in a unique position to see exactly how the global elite rule the world, and the information that she is now revealing to the public is absolutely stunning. According to Hudes, the elite use a very tight core of financial institutions and mega-corporations to dominate the planet. The goal is control. They want all of us enslaved to debt, they want all of our governments enslaved to debt, and they want all of our politicians addicted to the huge financial contributions that they funnel into their campaigns. Since the elite also own all of the big media companies, the mainstream media never lets us in on the secret that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way that our system works.


Source
So if all western media outlets are propaganda, and RT is just propaganda as well, who do we trust? What source can be called a valid source?


what is wrong with propaganda? since when does propaganda mean lie? anything that tries to push a view point is propaganda.

here is the footage of the hospital that was attacked. yes its RT but that doesn't change the fact that the building was hit with artilery.




posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: sosobad

You asked about TnC and I stated Nope.

The sources are blogs.

I am not sure how you are getting confused with my response. Its straight forward.



OK then, you done?


I was done after I made my first post. For some reason people still felt the need to include me in the ongoing debate.

Are you done now?



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes...

World Bank Whistleblower Karen Hudes Reveals How The Global Elite Rule The World



Karen Hudes is a graduate of Yale Law School and she worked in the legal department of the World Bank for more than 20 years. In fact, when she was fired for blowing the whistle on corruption inside the World Bank, she held the position of Senior Counsel. She was in a unique position to see exactly how the global elite rule the world, and the information that she is now revealing to the public is absolutely stunning. According to Hudes, the elite use a very tight core of financial institutions and mega-corporations to dominate the planet. The goal is control. They want all of us enslaved to debt, they want all of our governments enslaved to debt, and they want all of our politicians addicted to the huge financial contributions that they funnel into their campaigns. Since the elite also own all of the big media companies, the mainstream media never lets us in on the secret that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way that our system works.


Source
So if all western media outlets are propaganda, and RT is just propaganda as well, who do we trust? What source can be called a valid source?


what is wrong with propaganda? since when does propaganda mean lie? anything that tries to push a view point is propaganda.

here is the footage of the hospital that was attacked. yes its RT but that doesn't change the fact that the building was hit with artilery.

I acknowledged the building was hit by artillery. That's an indisputable fact. I take issue with the way RT spins it, is all.

ETA: That video you specifically linked lacks the usual RT spin, actually. Though I'm sure the pundits in the newsroom had more to add.
edit on 4-2-2015 by ScientificRailgun because: Added



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: sosobad

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: sosobad

You asked about TnC and I stated Nope.

The sources are blogs.

I am not sure how you are getting confused with my response. Its straight forward.



OK then, you done?


I was done after I made my first post. For some reason people still felt the need to include me in the ongoing debate.

Are you done now?


Did you or did you not direct your first post at me? Please for the love of god get over yourself. If you hadn't of commented at me we wouldn't be here. Bye now.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Prɒpəˈɡandə


1 [mass noun] Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote a political cause or point of view:
‘he was charged with distributing enemy propaganda’

1.1 The dissemination of propaganda as a political strategy:
‘the party’s leaders believed that a long period of education and propaganda would be necessary’



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes...

World Bank Whistleblower Karen Hudes Reveals How The Global Elite Rule The World



Karen Hudes is a graduate of Yale Law School and she worked in the legal department of the World Bank for more than 20 years. In fact, when she was fired for blowing the whistle on corruption inside the World Bank, she held the position of Senior Counsel. She was in a unique position to see exactly how the global elite rule the world, and the information that she is now revealing to the public is absolutely stunning. According to Hudes, the elite use a very tight core of financial institutions and mega-corporations to dominate the planet. The goal is control. They want all of us enslaved to debt, they want all of our governments enslaved to debt, and they want all of our politicians addicted to the huge financial contributions that they funnel into their campaigns. Since the elite also own all of the big media companies, the mainstream media never lets us in on the secret that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way that our system works.


Source
So if all western media outlets are propaganda, and RT is just propaganda as well, who do we trust? What source can be called a valid source?


what is wrong with propaganda? since when does propaganda mean lie? anything that tries to push a view point is propaganda.

here is the footage of the hospital that was attacked. yes its RT but that doesn't change the fact that the building was hit with artilery.

I acknowledged the building was hit by artillery. That's an indisputable fact. I take issue with the way RT spins it, is all.


Are you talking about the video ?

Because it just seems reporting.

And what is your opinion about how the Western media has reported the alleged attack on Mariupol and the recent bus attack ?



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: sosobad

Yup - Right here on Page 3

This is what I stated -
quote]Considering the "sources" people have used to support their claims are in fact blogs I don't see anything to support the claims made.

That would be where I ended my participation in this thread. Near the end a poster made a comment about dismissing sources and then got confused about what a blog is and what a news article is.

Everything else occurred because you did not understand my posts and I had to explain them to you. As for getting over myself I have no idea what your issue is so whey don't you explain to me what I need to specifically get over. Since you brought it up and all.

Are you done now?


edit on 4-2-2015 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 01:59 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

what spin?



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:00 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes...

World Bank Whistleblower Karen Hudes Reveals How The Global Elite Rule The World



Karen Hudes is a graduate of Yale Law School and she worked in the legal department of the World Bank for more than 20 years. In fact, when she was fired for blowing the whistle on corruption inside the World Bank, she held the position of Senior Counsel. She was in a unique position to see exactly how the global elite rule the world, and the information that she is now revealing to the public is absolutely stunning. According to Hudes, the elite use a very tight core of financial institutions and mega-corporations to dominate the planet. The goal is control. They want all of us enslaved to debt, they want all of our governments enslaved to debt, and they want all of our politicians addicted to the huge financial contributions that they funnel into their campaigns. Since the elite also own all of the big media companies, the mainstream media never lets us in on the secret that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way that our system works.


Source
So if all western media outlets are propaganda, and RT is just propaganda as well, who do we trust? What source can be called a valid source?


what is wrong with propaganda? since when does propaganda mean lie? anything that tries to push a view point is propaganda.

here is the footage of the hospital that was attacked. yes its RT but that doesn't change the fact that the building was hit with artilery.

I acknowledged the building was hit by artillery. That's an indisputable fact. I take issue with the way RT spins it, is all.


Are you talking about the video ?

Because it just seems reporting.

And what is your opinion about how the Western media has reported the alleged attack on Mariupol and the recent bus attack ?
I'll answer your question though I did add some more info to the post after watching the video. I DO watch and read what the Pro-Russia side posts, believe it or not. That video lacked any spin. It was just a guy reporting a hospital was hit and briefly talked about it serving that residential area.

To answer your question on the alleged Mariupol and bus attack, I'm reserving my judgement until I can do my own research on it.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra




propaganda
[prop-uh-gan-duh]
noun
1.
information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.
2.
the deliberate spreading of such information, rumors, etc.
3.
the particular doctrines or principles propagated by an organization or movement.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

what spin?
I edited my post after watching the video.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

You ask a question and then ask me am I done? Lol

Make what you will from my comment but you are not that important to me that I am "dragging" you into anything. You simply keep replying to me. Now I'm done.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes...

World Bank Whistleblower Karen Hudes Reveals How The Global Elite Rule The World



Karen Hudes is a graduate of Yale Law School and she worked in the legal department of the World Bank for more than 20 years. In fact, when she was fired for blowing the whistle on corruption inside the World Bank, she held the position of Senior Counsel. She was in a unique position to see exactly how the global elite rule the world, and the information that she is now revealing to the public is absolutely stunning. According to Hudes, the elite use a very tight core of financial institutions and mega-corporations to dominate the planet. The goal is control. They want all of us enslaved to debt, they want all of our governments enslaved to debt, and they want all of our politicians addicted to the huge financial contributions that they funnel into their campaigns. Since the elite also own all of the big media companies, the mainstream media never lets us in on the secret that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way that our system works.


Source
So if all western media outlets are propaganda, and RT is just propaganda as well, who do we trust? What source can be called a valid source?


what is wrong with propaganda? since when does propaganda mean lie? anything that tries to push a view point is propaganda.

here is the footage of the hospital that was attacked. yes its RT but that doesn't change the fact that the building was hit with artilery.

I acknowledged the building was hit by artillery. That's an indisputable fact. I take issue with the way RT spins it, is all.


Are you talking about the video ?

Because it just seems reporting.

And what is your opinion about how the Western media has reported the alleged attack on Mariupol and the recent bus attack ?
I'll answer your question though I did add some more info to the post after watching the video. I DO watch and read what the Pro-Russia side posts, believe it or not. That video lacked any spin. It was just a guy reporting a hospital was hit and briefly talked about it serving that residential area.

To answer your question on the alleged Mariupol and bus attack, I'm reserving my judgement until I can do my own research on it.


I wasn`t asking about who did it.

I was only asking about what you thought about how the Western media handled it.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Yes...

World Bank Whistleblower Karen Hudes Reveals How The Global Elite Rule The World



Karen Hudes is a graduate of Yale Law School and she worked in the legal department of the World Bank for more than 20 years. In fact, when she was fired for blowing the whistle on corruption inside the World Bank, she held the position of Senior Counsel. She was in a unique position to see exactly how the global elite rule the world, and the information that she is now revealing to the public is absolutely stunning. According to Hudes, the elite use a very tight core of financial institutions and mega-corporations to dominate the planet. The goal is control. They want all of us enslaved to debt, they want all of our governments enslaved to debt, and they want all of our politicians addicted to the huge financial contributions that they funnel into their campaigns. Since the elite also own all of the big media companies, the mainstream media never lets us in on the secret that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way that our system works.


Source
So if all western media outlets are propaganda, and RT is just propaganda as well, who do we trust? What source can be called a valid source?


what is wrong with propaganda? since when does propaganda mean lie? anything that tries to push a view point is propaganda.

here is the footage of the hospital that was attacked. yes its RT but that doesn't change the fact that the building was hit with artilery.

I acknowledged the building was hit by artillery. That's an indisputable fact. I take issue with the way RT spins it, is all.


Are you talking about the video ?

Because it just seems reporting.

And what is your opinion about how the Western media has reported the alleged attack on Mariupol and the recent bus attack ?
I'll answer your question though I did add some more info to the post after watching the video. I DO watch and read what the Pro-Russia side posts, believe it or not. That video lacked any spin. It was just a guy reporting a hospital was hit and briefly talked about it serving that residential area.

To answer your question on the alleged Mariupol and bus attack, I'm reserving my judgement until I can do my own research on it.


I wasn`t asking about who did it.

I was only asking about what you thought about how the Western media handled it.

The majority of Western media handled it with it's usual anti-russia spin. Between subtle hints the the rebels may have been responsible and outright saying that it wouldn't have happened if the rebels would just back down, it got the standard "Russia bad West good" coat of paint.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:16 PM
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My very first post too you was not a question - It was a statement.

Everything coming after was based on you, not me. I responded to you, which apparently confused you. You asked me if I was done, I asked if you were done.

You up to speed now?

There was nothing for me to get over although apparently you think there is. If you cant support what you state then don't post it.

Easy as that.


Good to know you are now done derailing the thread.


@ AVoiceOfReason
Yup.. In this case though your definition does not apply to Russian media being Russia media has been caught lying about what it reports with regards to Ukraine since it started and continues to this day.



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Considering the rebels claimed they brought the plane down and then tried to backtrack when they found out they shot down a civilian airliner I don't think western media was that far off with their reporting.




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