**BREAKING** Jordan executes ISIL prisoners: reports

ISIS are not mentally ill, they are mentally dead. There is no civilization left in their mind. Therefore the most humane thing to do is put them down. Like a horse with a broken leg. Just put it down.

originally posted by: DYepes
ISIS are not mentally ill, they are mentally dead. There is no civilization left in their mind. Therefore the most humane thing to do is put them down. Like a horse with a broken leg. Just put it down.

our medicine is advanced enough that horses with broken legs don't have to be shot anymore. and that's my point. if you broke your toe, would you want your doctor to not give you medical solutions or if your brother broke his toe, would you not want the doctor to fix it instead of shooting him in the head? that's what ignoring mental/emotional illness is = ignoring the patient's symptoms.

at one time, the medical community ignored it because they didn't understand it. now they know alot more about it, but the solutions are still not forthcoming. i think the reason for that is everyone is convinced that you can kill/murder another person and not be/or become mentally/emotionally ill from it. i think that's incorrect. like court cases where a person is murdered but you have to prove the murderer was insane when they did it. well doh, they clearly are not right in the head, that's obvious.

a reply to: undo

In a perfect world we could take in all the militants and "cure" them of the "disease" known as religious extremism. But this isn't a perfect world, and some people are too far gone to help. When your group starts beheading people for being not muslim enough or setting people on fire in cages while crowds around the screaming, horrified victim cheer on in sadistic delight, there's not much you can do with current medical or psychology theory.

Sometimes, a rabid dog just has to be put down.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: undo

In a perfect world we could take in all the militants and "cure" them of the "disease" known as religious extremism. But this isn't a perfect world, and some people are too far gone to help. When your group starts beheading people for being not muslim enough or setting people on fire in cages while crowds around the screaming, horrified victim cheer on in sadistic delight, there's not much you can do with current medical or psychology theory.

Sometimes, a rabid dog just has to be put down.

religion isn't causing the problem. if that were true, how do you explain mao or stalin? no religion - pure psychopathy. stalin killed more people than religion has (he killed 45 million of his own people, 10 million or so, he starved slowly to death in their own homes which became like a giant concentration camp. he made hitler look like a saint. his soldiers were all mentally/emotionally ill. they were burying half dead people, alive, right in the same mass graves with actual corpses. that's insanity, infectious insanity. which is my point - revenge killings are the very definition of infectious, vicious circle, insanity)

no, this isn't about religion. it's about the craving for power, which is a political thing, not a religious thing.

Today I've heard so many calls for war it's shocking and saddening that we're so cavalier with the lives of our troops. Our bravest and best people are exhausted from endless tours, we've completely run them into the ground now we want to send them back and for what? This will never end because we keep repeating the same insanity expecting different results.

We should be asking them what they think, many of the soldiers I've spoke to have said we funded ISIS from the begining. What we need is a change in leadership and to evolve our societies into actual beacons of freedom and prosperity that other nations look to as examples of what they could achieve, not continue to force our ideals at gunpoint on the rest of the world.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Will you please run for president of the U.S.?

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

HA, Obama told the king of Jordan to have measured response.

A measured response, what the heck does that mean?

a reply to: MagnaCarta2015

you make a good point. every time we send our soldiers overseas to kill people, it damages them as well. so if they don't die, they still come back, messed up. vicious circle.

a reply to: kosmicjack

So they emigrate instead of stay and fix their home. Well that oughta be even more of a clue that we don't belong there either. So put a moratorium on immigration then.

This flippin world needs a time out. Hard as that might be one some people.

originally posted by: FalcoFan
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Will you please run for president of the U.S.?

LOL no because I value my mind, as weird as it is. And I'd be assassinated in a heartbeat. :p

Looks like the media are putting the "something needs to be done now spin", this situation is turning into exactly what the west wanted just as it did after 9/11. I wonder what opinion polls now say about a "war" on isis due to this barbaric act?. Must be because beheading people was just to mainstream and not shocking enough to get people behind the idea of yet another conflict and remember it only needs support for a short time as even when public opinion changes the message will be "we are staying until the job is done" blah blah..

www.theguardian.com...

Find the ISIS stronghold and turn the whole area into a sheet of glass.

originally posted by: James1970
Good work Jordan - Now they will be celebrated as Martyr's. You just helped their recruitment drive. Why not just keep them locked up - FOREVER!

Martyr | Define Martyr at Dictionary.com
martyr. a person who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his or her religion. a person who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause.

Could have just fed them pork LOL.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: bobs_uruncle

The pork thing is getting really old.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: bobs_uruncle

The pork thing is getting really old.

So is the feeble responses by Obama.

We get US citizen's heads chopped off and no response just a few golf swings. Then the King of Jordan steps up to the plate and goes Dirty Harry vowing to run out of fuel and bullets killing those bastards. Obama's legacy will be the wimpiest wimp of all time among world leaders ever to have lived. Instead of offering the King of Jordan more bullets and fuel, he publicly advises him to have a measured response. WTF is a measured response going to do? He may as well just said don't rock the boat I only got two years to wait this crap out and pass it on to the next guy. He excels only in incompetence and providing an empty chair, which Clint Eastwood prophetically displayed to us years ago concerning this POTUS.

Sadly I don't think ISIS cares if their captured mind washed recruits are hung or killed. They are probably pleased in fact.. dead prisoners tell no tales. I'm all for eradicating them, but it needs a smart, cooperative, intelligent plan and response. They need to be removed completely, and angst-fueled hangings and attacks based on emotion won't fix this issue.

For Jordan grabbing two people from their prisons and hanging them isn't much better than isis, and shows us that even the civilized countries over there are not really.

a reply to: Shiloh7

Less not forget that they aren’t only evil but a high degree of delusional and certainly bat # crazy…sociopaths, psychopathic…blood lust sadists
I could give a highly technical psychological profile of these madmen but the above will suffice.

They are a huge cult that are guided by sinister, old bitter men who are ethnocentric religious bigots of a unique high order of deep mental depravity

They are the lowest of the low scum from their society who have taken advantage of modern mass media and modern agrarian education where the lowest of the low can reach to the highest

These people are misfits of society, rejects, they cant get girl friends, they are lonely and the bullies you met in school, they are filled with hatred for something that is being displaced towards their perceived enemies

Remember the guy in school, who was the lowest varmint in the class,

We all had the type

Those are the kinds of people in Isil

a reply to: Stormdancer777

evidently the king of jordan took that to mean jump in an attack helicopter and strafe isis for a few hours

twitchy.com...
www.breitbart.com...

Jordan’s King Abdullah is reportedly personally involved in executing air strikes against Islamic State positions in the aftermath of the terrorist group’s brutal execution of Jordanian pilot 1st Lt. Moaz Kasasbeh. Shafaqna news and Iraqinews.com claimed to have confirmed with their sources that King Abdullah is personally involved in conducting the air strikes. What remains unclear is whether Abdullah is personally suiting up and flying a plane, or instead commanding units involved in the mission.

so thats quite the message if he really is taking the field of battle as i THINK the last king to actively do this was a British king ,throw in the fact that the pilot killed was part of his tribe so to speak.so i guess that is what the king of Jordan interpreted obamas message to mean either that or he did it to spite him

english.alarabiya.net... more directly from the military

The tribal equation Third is the tribal equation. Lt. al-Kasasbeh hailed from the Barasheh tribe in southern Jordan. The Barasheh tribe is part of the backbone, if you will, of the Jordanian monarchy especially the Jordanian armed forces. As the crisis over Lt. al-Kasasbeh unfolded, tribal elders tried to negotiate with ISIS for his release in a prisoner swap noted above. But the discussions were all a folly. ISIS used the Jordanian tribes similar to how they have abused Iraqi tribes. This fact makes matters worse because the Barsasheh tribe now will want revenge, and rightfully so. What comes next is very likely what has been discussed privately: A Jordanian military operation against ISIS in Syrian territory. Clearly, Lt. al-Kasasbeh’s martyrdom status is likely to launch exactly what ISIS wants from the Hashemite Kingdom. Jordan’s military and special operation forces, who are made up of key tribes, are likely to be unleashed to track down and eliminate ISIS on Syrian territory. Any Jordanian military operation on the ground will be fierce and well-armed, and now, more highly motivated than ever before. As I noted in a column last year, 10,000-12,000 SOF will be used hunt down Lt. al-Kasasbeh’s killers and their associates. Jordan may well be “the tip of the spear” for a ground campaign by other coalition partners. As we know, Amman’s SOF is world renowned with almost 30,000 SOF warriors augmented with enhanced training at the King Abdullah Special Operations Training Center (KASOTC). Force 71 will be used as well and their furiousness is legendary. Also possibly coming into play will be Jordan’s counter-terrorism and intelligence relationship with Chechnya and Russia who also have a vested interest in tearing apart ISIS. Of course, any Jordanian ground operation will be augmented by the Hashemite Kingdom’s own air force with coalition assistance. Indeed, this event, if it comes to fruition, may be the final battle for ISIS in Syria.

that is another factor i had not seen mentioned the tribal aspect as the article puts it.

www.washingtontimes.com... seems the sunis are rallying against isis over the recent execution they definitely bit off more then they can chew with their latest stunt

a reply to: Xtrozero

both of the executed were convicted given trials and then executed the Jordanian pilot was by all intents and purposes a prisoner of war to be afforded the protections of the Geneva and Hauge conventions kind of a big difference then just grabbing two randoms and having a good old lynching

www.cbc.ca...

In a first response to the killing of the pilot, Jordan executed Sajida al-Rishawi and Ziad al-Karbouly, two Iraqis linked to al-Qaeda, government spokesman Mohammed al-Momani said. Another official said they were executed by hanging. The executions took place at Swaqa prison about 80 kilometres south of the Jordanian capital of Amman. At sunrise, two ambulances carrying the bodies of al-Rishawi and al-Karbouly drove away from the prison with security escorts. Over the past week, Jordan had offered to trade al-Rishawi, a failed suicide bomber, for the pilot, but froze any swap after failing to receive any proof that the pilot was still alive. Jordanian TV said the pilot was killed as long ago as Jan. 3. Al-Rishawi had been sentenced to death after her 2005 role in a triple hotel bombing that killed 60 people in Amman orchestrated by al-Qaeda in Iraq, the predecessor of the Islamic State group. Al-Karbouly was sent to death row in 2008 for plotting terror attacks on Jordanians in Iraq

so one of the hanged killed 60 and the other gave it the good old college try and go caught before he could act was arrested and they both had trials far better then being tossed in a cage and lit on fire.