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Originally posted by saint4God
The Bible explains how old the earth is? Where?
Originally posted by The Big O
How does creationism explain items that are carbon dated older than the bible says the earth is?
Also, what is the religious take on dinosaurs? One big hoax?
How does creationism explain things that lived and died before man showed up?
I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being serious. I want to know the theory on the other side to counteract these items.
saint4god
I don't understand why the existence of dinosaurs negates God
If you're wondering why dinosaurs aren't in the Bible, I'd say it's because it was unimportant
jupiter
Remember that creationism (or the new phrase: intelligent design to be politically correct and give possible credit to Aliens as well as God)
is a theory, just as evolution is a theory
Creationism may be more difficult or impossible to prove which
Evolution may be the tool of intelligent design.
phantom chatter
Ok, first, Carbon dating has been proven inacurate, in tests it dated a piece of shell at having died 11,000,000 years ago.
Second, Dinosaurs (at least thats what people think is described there) are mentioned in the book of job
triobite (cant spell it) fossils had been found next to fossilized footprints of humans wearing sandals.
I have found out all this in books and of course the answers in genisis website.
shaunybaby
. if the bible really is the word of god or inspired by god then im sure they would have mention dinosaurs
phantom chatter
Ok, what does that creature sound like?
shaunybaby
the fact that their bones are fossilised, which does not take less than 50,000 years
Originally posted by Nygdan
Also, what is the religious take on dinosaurs? One big hoax?
Similiar to the above. Either they're omphallically created, or they'll say that man and dinosaur co-existed, becaues the bible mentions a 'bohemoth',
Originally posted by Phantom Chatter
You say there is no mention of dinosaurs in the bible? True, not the exact word dinosaur, but here, read this direct qoute from Job chapter 40, verse 15 to 24 and tell me what you think they are talking about.
15. Look at the behemoth which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16. What strength has he in his loins, what power in his muscles in his belly!
17. His tail sways like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.
18. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like rods of iron.
19. He ranks first among the works of god, yet his maker can approah him with a sword.
20. The hills bring him there produce, and all the wild animal play nearby.
21. Under the lotus plants he lies, hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22. The lotuses conceal him in there shadow; the poplars by the stream surround him.
23. When the river rages he is not alarmed: he is secure, thought the Jordan should surge agaisnt his mouth.
24. Can anyone capture him by the eyes, or trap him and pierce his nose?
Ok, what does that creature sound like? (remember, this was written a couple thousand years before the first dinosaur fossil was found)
Originally posted by The Big O
Maybe part of the disconnect with me is how things are taught about creationism. It's all or nothing. Bible is right, not wrong. Mind you this was MY experience growing up. There just never seemed room for any debate of questioning. It seemed bland and boring, as if thinking freely was wrong.
Originally posted by The Big O
Turned me off from the whole religion thing.
Originally posted by The Big O
To me, I don't discard that a "higher power" of some form could exist.
Originally posted by The Big O
Thanks everyone!
Originally posted by shaunybaby
lol well i'm glad i cracked you up. but i must thank you for cracking me up...''dragons''? well i think were getting mixed up here, dinosaurs are fact and dragons are myths. if you talk about a dragon you are not talking about dinosaurs. if you talk about a bellmoth you are not talking about dinosaurs. the bible never mentions anything about dinosaurs because that was unknown knowledge when it was written. my point is that if dinosaurs lived in the context of the creationists world then they would have been mentioned in the bible. the fact that there is no mention of them is because according to the bible dinosaurs never set foot on earth whether it was 50,000 or 65 million years ago.
could you even begin to imagine what people would believe today if nobody dug up any dinosaurs or had theories of evolution? we would all be a very closed minded world, a very ignorant world and last of all a very religious world
Originally posted by jupiter869
Evolution may be the tool of intelligent design.
Originally posted by riley
Interesting how the word 'bohemoth' is similar to 'mammoth'.. not sure when they got hunted into extinction though.
Originally posted by Slicky1313
and to answer Saint for God's thing of how he said
"and still no one has answered this question yet" of where the Bible says how old the earth is.
The Bible does not specifically say "the earth is XXX" years old. but, given the assumption time starts with Adam, and the Bible gives Adam's family heritage down to birth and death to Noah, u can add up their lives they all lived, and come to Noah, which then it tells u the year, and batta boom batta bang- the age of earth no more than 10K years old according to Bible. look it up yereself if ya want, its in Genesis, gives how long the people lived to show age of earth.
Originally posted by Nygdan
I don't think a connection can be made however. Though it would be interesting. The 'tail' could be the trunk and they do eat all sorts of things. However, mamoths probably weren't around the levant, but elephants probably were.