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originally posted by: Prezbo369
A quite typical Christian attempt at defending the murderous god they worship, 'look over there! Those guys were much worse than our God!'........failing to grasp that apparently this god is all knowing, super powerful and the source for everything good in the world (love, morals etc), and comparing it to the most barbaric and debased people at that time in history gets them nowhere.
Regardless of who was doing what to whoever 2000 years ago, the god of the bible still carried out some truly evil and disgusting acts, and the fact that people get on their knees and worship this vicious entity in 2015 is a good indication of the biggest problems the world still has.
You realize that the very history of mankind is a very violent history....from the beginning. And this long before the advent of Christianity. And it continues today ..in times of enlightenment and illumination...educated men running things.
His research shows that the death toll from democide is far greater than the death toll from war. After studying over 8,000 reports of government-caused deaths, Rummel estimates that there have been 262 million victims of democide in the last century. According to his figures, six times as many people have died from the actions of people working for governments than have died in battle.
A quite typical Christian attempt at defending the murderous god they worship, 'look over there! Those guys were much worse than our God!'........failing to grasp that apparently this god is all knowing, super powerful and the source for everything good in the world (love, morals etc), and comparing it to the most barbaric and debased people at that time in history gets them nowhere.
Regardless of who was doing what to whoever 2000 years ago, the god of the bible still carried out some truly evil and disgusting acts, and the fact that people get on their knees and worship this vicious entity in 2015 is a good indication of the biggest problems the world still has.
originally posted by: Prezbo369
A quite typical Christian attempt at defending the murderous god they worship, 'look over there! Those guys were much more murderous than our God!'........failing to grasp that apparently this god is all knowing, super powerful and the source for everything good in the world (love, morals etc), and comparing it to the most barbaric and debased people at that time in history gets them nowhere.
Regardless of who was doing what to whoever 2000 years ago, the god of the bible still carried out some truly evil and disgusting acts, and the fact that people get on their knees and worship this vicious entity in 2015 is a good indication of the biggest problems the world still has.
The Unbelieving position and principle is that God is all loving...
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: orangetom1999
The Unbelieving position and principle is that God is all loving...
"Unbelievers" don't believe in your God at all, let alone that it is all loving. All we can know about the Biblical God is what is written in the Bible, and the Bible portrays this God as a violent, vengeful, wrathful and judgmental God that order his followers to murder, pillage and rape in his name.
"Unbelievers" don't ignore the "evil" that mankind is capable of, they just don't justify their's or buy into other's justification of bad behavior, by invoking a "God" or a "Devil" to shift the blame to.
Also by Prezbo.369,
a reply to: orangetom1999
Geez another typical and Pitiful attempt at excusing their horrific entity.....might is right, right?
Nothing it does to us could possibly be evil because it made us and it can do whatever it wants with us......the ultimate servitude.
So, the Old Testament is all allegory?
The books of the Old Testament can be broadly divided into several sections: 1) the first five books or Pentateuch (Torah); 2) the history books telling the history of the Israelites, from their conquest of Canaan to their defeat and exile in Babylon; 3) the poetic and "Wisdom" books dealing, in various forms, with questions of good and evil in the world; 4) and the books of the biblical prophets, warning of the consequences of turning away from God.
Everything I quoted is from the Old Testament, and much of it from the Torah. I have quoted NOTHING from the Talmud. The Talmud is a document from the Christian era. The Old Testament doesn't support Original Sin!
You are correct that the Babylonian Talmud is much more widely studied than the Jerusalem Talmud. Furthermore, if there is a disagreement between the two talmuds, the halachah (Torah law) follows the Babylonian Talmud.
Posted by Orangetom
What brought in the New Testament is the event of the Cross. This means that as Jesus walked among men and lived with them ..it was Still Olde Testament.
A quite typical Christian attempt at defending the murderous god they worship, 'look over there! Those guys were much worse than our God!'
Well you'd be in a very small minority there friend.