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Bill Would Allow Texas Teachers to Use Deadly Force Against Students

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Very easy. Don't want to be shot?? Don't steal when in the states that allow such recourse.

How is this even an argument.

If you don't like the reaction, don't do the action. This is not difficult to understand.




posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: Answer

Yeah... in my mind the only justifiable reason to kill someone is if a life is in danger not any property no matter how valuable. Sorry for missing your point because of it.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: Answer

Good on you



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Shamrock6

smh


What an eloquent post!

Sadly, as you did not ask for any sort of elaboration I must presume that you know all from the few words I said.

Oh well. So much for debate, eh?



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Texas is already the laughing stock of anything having to do with education anyway.....now this





Is that so?

States ranked by quality of educational system.

edit on 2/2/2015 by Answer because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Answer

So theft is justifiably dealt with by Capital Punishment?

Shoot a guy for stealing a case of beer... Yeah sure...

Snipe a mother in front of her children for stealing from Walmart... Damn skippy...

Gunned down for taking a tip jar... Oh hell yeah...

Shot for walking off with a creeps 100dollars... Hey she was only a hooker anyways...





How about don't steal from people and it will never be an issue?

Laws should be designed to dissuade crime, not to be more forgiving. The "slap on the wrist" style of justice only creates more criminals.



How about you read your own constitution beyond the 2nd and see one has the right to a trial and due process?

How about those listed who were shot and killed for "theft" never got a trial and as such were not convictec of a crime and could very well have been innocent?


Yes one has the right to defend ones life with deadly force.

Dont see any jutification to go kill someone cause you think someone is commiting property crime.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: Answer

For arguments sake...


How do you feel about Saudi Arabian law that says a thief will lose their hand?


It's their law right? So it's justified surely?

Why give them "a slap on the wrist" when it's much easier to take a machete to it... Eh?


Or is it really just a barbaric practice that's been made into law and 100% not justifiable considering the value of the crime?
Like a bullet to the back of the head to protect Walmarts interests.



Right to Due Process... Fair Trial... Kaput...
Land of the free... Right to Life... Meaningless slogans...

Fun to hoot and holler about...
Not to actually live by though...

That would mean no more killing hookers for 150bucks.




posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Very easy. Don't want to be shot?? Don't steal when in the states that allow such recourse.

How is this even an argument.

If you don't like the reaction, don't do the action. This is not difficult to understand.


Except some shot may not have been theifs?

Without a trial and due process who knows?



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Those are laws regarding/pertaining to the Govt.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: macman

Yeah sure...


Side with the State's lunatic law makers over a mother who steals from Walmart...



What's written on paper doesn't make it moral...

& only the moral can be justified by definition...

What you claim is justified is really just legal...

& there is a big damn difference between legal & justified.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:43 PM
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Predictably, the folks from the UK have shown up to comment on US law.

If guns are mentioned, the usual suspects come out of the woodwork every time.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: crazyewok

Those are laws regarding/pertaining to the Govt.



So killing one based on a alledged non violent crime is ok?

Say I owend a shop, you walked in and I shot you in the head for not likeing the look of you, then told the police you were stealing. That ok?



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Or actually murdering someone for whatever reason and planting something on them and claiming they stole it.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Am I supposed to be sad about your retort??

Don't want to be shot, don't steal.

Before our laws were established via the Founding Documents, there were still repercussions for actions like theft.
Horse theft was dealt with via hanging.

The poor mother thing really should be saved for someone like your fellow bleeding heart that doesn't like punishing people for criminal actions.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: Hoosierdaddy71
Wonder if pencil sharpener theft will drop now?
Still think this is all an overreaction.


It usually is with this crowd.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Answer
Predictably, the folks from the UK have shown up to comment on US law.

If guns are mentioned, the usual suspects come out of the woodwork every time.



1) have I mentioned banning guns?

2) have I mentioned altering the 2nd amendment in anyway?

3) have I mentioned gun control in any form?

NO!

4) is ATS a international forum?
YES

Based on the above 4 points your post is invalid.

Conclusion?

I recomend you take reading classes and join a American only forum.
edit on 2-2-2015 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: macman
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Am I supposed to be sad about your retort??

Don't want to be shot, don't steal.

Before our laws were established via the Founding Documents, there were still repercussions for actions like theft.
Horse theft was dealt with via hanging.

The poor mother thing really should be saved for someone like your fellow bleeding heart that doesn't like punishing people for criminal actions.




Yes but they got a trial before that hanging



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Is that the law??? Or are you off in drama land.


Say someone walks in, threatens bodily harm and you shoot them. Still have to talk to the police about it.

The "what-ifs" can be applied to anything.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Answer

No argument to debate with except your mantra "you're not from around here boooyyy"...


Classy.


Makes me wonder why you joined a globally motivated website only to complain when people from around the globe make a comment!





posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

No, not in all cases.

You should study American history, before many laws came into place.




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