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Hockey Fans Pour Beer On Native Kids, Tell Them To 'Go Back To The Rez'

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: Dr0neT3k

originally posted by: APT1Yksnidnak


* You would be ashamed to know what kind of things Natives go through while being hassled by the 'white community'. Hell, the Affordable Care Act is mirrored from the Native Health Care System. Crazy! but don't tell anyone, sssshhh!




Guess what? This happens to people of all colors, all the time. Folks like you just want to use this kind of thing to demonize white Americans. No doubt if these were Muslims, the thread would be full of "you cant blame all Muslims for the actions of a few". For some reason that standard goes out the window when demonizing white people.

Sure...this is ALL about the poor whites.




posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 12:34 PM
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: APT1Yksnidnak

Read the title. Thought it happened in Winnipeg. Something about the Red River maybe?




F&S&



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 02:03 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

Sure...this is ALL about the poor whites.


Yes, this is the typical bigoted rationalization I see from people who think it's ok to demonize people THEY don't like. Just because some drunk people (did it even mention skin color?) did something stupid, does not mean all white people are somehow to blame.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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Reminds me of something I witnessed at an FC St. Pauli Pirates match in Hamburg, Germany.

Neither at the time nor now did I reflect on the situation thinking, "Wow, Jur'Many is a racist place". I looked at it as, "Wow, the drunk guys in those stands really wanted to pick on people, and they used the most obvious thing to the human eye, race, to do it. What a bunch of aholes". And they did not change my opinion of the very nice people and country I visited.

If I had thought, "Wow, these guys are rude and racist, what a land of racists the Jurmins have!" would have in fact made me a racist as I stereotyped an entire race and nation of people.

But I won't stoop to their level.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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All I can add to this is my personal experience.

I live 6 houses away from the Tuscarora Reservation. Grew up with them as neighbors and classmates.

We all feared the Indians, they would take no S#!T. I admired them, they lived by family and nation honor.

They were a part of the community yet separate at the same time. I was fortunate to be accepted into their circle, as much as they let any non tribe member in.

They would tolerate NO BS when it came to slandering or racist behavior aimed at ANYONE on the Res.

We had some bigots in the school, like all communities do, but they knew better than to openly antagonize the Indians.

If they did catch racism aimed at a tribe member, you might as well say the WHOLE tribe dealt with it.

I am 50 now and still have a couple friends that I visit there, and I consider it my honor to call them friends.

They look at the 'white man' as insane mostly, always chasing after 'things', and then always spending all our time taking care of 'things'. They say, and I couldn't agree more, that we lost sight of what is important.

I dont think I would have contained myself if I was a witness to the ignorance demonstrated by the morons in the OP.

Native Indians have my utmost respect.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 03:00 PM
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What the # is an Uhmerican? It seems to me you're using a racially charged made up word put down others racially charged actions. Wake up and smell the hypocrisy, and speak like a god damn adult.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Dr0neT3k
Yes, this is the typical bigoted rationalization I see from people who think it's ok to demonize people THEY don't like. Just because some drunk people (did it even mention skin color?) did something stupid, does not mean all white people are somehow to blame.
Of course it doesn't...but it would be foolish to deny that there's a lot of prejudice out there against First Nations.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Unity_99




Even in our small community, my crystal angelic very shy son, is treated with prejudice by doctors and teachers.


Very sorry to hear that. The natives of Canada are still being denied justice in exposing abuse...



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: Djarums




Thanks for the notification.

Wouldn't have noticed your multiple accounts otherwise.

Banned.



Hahaha...my gut is bursting...thanks for the heads up...poof gone sucker



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: seagull




Look back on the treatment of the Irish. Blacks. Chinese. Jews. ...any ethnic/religious grouping you can name has, at one time or another, or many times, been the target of hate


But like with some bullies maybe its born out of frustration at a world where they seem they have lost control over. Unemployment, jobs being exported, useless wars taking much needed taxes...I am in no way defending their abhorrent actions. I just wonder what with all the nervousness about US/Russian relations at the moment, the EU fragmenting, I wonder if this is one of the clues that we are heading for dark days ahead?

Are hemlines trending shorter or longer at the moment?



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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Essentially we are living in the best of times the world has seen for human rights, acceptance, low crime etc. It seems awful because these awful things are


You just triggered a memory. Apparently the western world at the moment is rather low on the "happiness index" defying demographers conventional wisdom as to materialism being a pointer towards happiness.
found it

www.happyplanetindex.org...



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

But Charlie, you have done exactly the same thing!

By describing these drunks as 'Knuckle dragging Neanderthals and cavemen", you have now racially mocked Neanderthals and discriminated against them.
Yet in all likelihood, they were a sophisticated intelligent Homo race, who existed for at least 200,000 years.

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 05:49 PM
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They look at the 'white man' as insane mostly, always chasing after 'things', and then always spending all our time taking care of 'things'.


Of course most of us are insane chasing stuff. Theres no otherway to describe it. A few of us do rise above it Thats a capitalist/consumer thing as witnessed by the increased consumerism in CHina as their economy thrived. But I wont lump all whites as insane. Thats just PC over reaction, dare I say self-hating white ( I think its called white guilt )

Tell me something, if you wish, do you still feel the same outrage looking at pictures of Iraqi children suffering from DU weapons exposure or napalm burns? I understand if you chose not to answer.



I dont think I would have contained myself if I was a witness to the ignorance demonstrated by the morons in the OP


Would you expend the same energy in standing up for Palestinians targeted by Israel?



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: gort51

You know, you're right gort...


I guess subconsciously I chose Neanderthal rather than Demonic entity to refrain from sounding like a preacher...

Looking back on it, it was pretty discriminatory of me.




posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: APT1Yksnidnak

Stumbled across this despicable act of barbarism in Uhmerica.

- Hockey Fans Pour Beer On Native Kids, Tell Them To 'Go Back To The Rez'

- Fans at a minor league hockey game reportedly pour beer, hurl racist insults at Native American children

- Suspects Who Hit Native American Kids With Racial Slurs, Beer Identified, Police Say



Justin Poor Bear, one of the parents who chaperoned the group of kids from the American Horse School in Allen, South Dakota, described the ugly incident on Facebook:

“There were 15 or more (people) inside of the suite, most of them men. [T]hey were getting drunk and around the 3rd Quarter they (started) talking crap to our kids and throwing down beer on some of them including our staff and students… (They were) telling our students to back to the rez.”

The 57 children who attended the Rush hockey game on Saturday were students at the American Horse School and were invited to the game as part of a program with the hockey team, KOTA reported.




“I didn’t go to fight, after all I represent American Horse School,” he wrote on Facebook. “I (want) to see all our kids have fun, and for the most part they did until a group of drunks did this to our kids tonight.”

“I’ve never seen anything like this before. Some of the things being said to the children were racially charged. I don’t know how to perceive people who would behave that way,” he said. “We have to bring these kids back to have a good experience.”




"They were targets of a hate crime because of their skin color, because they were from the rez and they were told to go back to the rez,” she said. “Why do we have to explain that they're hated just because of their skin color? We as parents, we struggle with that, what do we tell them? You know, it's hard.”


* It takes a Real Big Uhmerican To Pick On Native Kids - -

You won’t see Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson coming to their defense. Natives have gotten an under-played stereotype placed on them. Yet, I’ve seen on ATS some despicable comments towards them, such as: “They’re whiners”

* - I believe this is a great opportunity to open our eyes to how Natives get treated & make sure that we use our position of ‘privilege’ to make sure other don’t act this way towards Natives.


That is not approvable by THIS American, so don't think all Americans are like this.

It does not take a big American, just a bad American. And not all Americans are like this.

Reminds me of this...



Someone is going to go berserk. Methinks a new Billy Jack is about to come on the scene.
edit on 2/2/2015 by WarminIndy because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 08:58 PM
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But like with some bullies maybe its born out of frustration at a world where they seem they have lost control over. Unemployment, jobs being exported, useless wars taking much needed taxes...I am in no way defending their abhorrent actions. I just wonder what with all the nervousness about US/Russian relations at the moment, the EU fragmenting, I wonder if this is one of the clues that we are heading for dark days ahead?

Are hemlines trending shorter or longer at the moment?

I respectfully disagree, this type of bullying existed when times are good or bad and yes bullies come in all forms, colors and shape, all that is needed is a perception of weakness be it physical, economic , numerical or political if you are perceived to be all four you are in for a world of hurt.

Earlier I used the scenario that if these kids were placed in L.A the sympathies of many here would drop..for out there, their Hispanic speaking cousins are in no way a small number and might well be a majority by now, matter of fact it is doubtful if the incident would have taken place in certain quarters.

I am well a where the census separate Latinos and Native Americans, but the reality is, while most Native Americans are not Hispanic,most Hispanics are Native Americans or carries a heavy doze of Native American genes.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 09:12 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight


But like with some bullies maybe its born out of frustration at a world where they seem they have lost control over. Unemployment, jobs being exported, useless wars taking much needed taxes...I am in no way defending their abhorrent actions. I just wonder what with all the nervousness about US/Russian relations at the moment, the EU fragmenting, I wonder if this is one of the clues that we are heading for dark days ahead?

Are hemlines trending shorter or longer at the moment?

I respectfully disagree, this type of bullying existed when times are good or bad and yes bullies come in all forms, colors and shape, all that is needed is a perception of weakness be it physical, economic , numerical or political if you are perceived to be all four you are in for a world of hurt.

Earlier I used the scenario that if these kids were placed in L.A the sympathies of many here would drop..for out there, their Hispanic speaking cousins are in no way a small number and might well be a majority by now, matter of fact it is doubtful if the incident would have taken place in certain quarters.

I am well a where the census separate Latinos and Native Americans, but the reality is, while most Native Americans are not Hispanic,most Hispanics are Native Americans or carries a heavy doze of Native American genes.


Well, to be fair, Hispanic is a culture based on Spanish. While Native Americans are Native American because they are Native American, their Hispanic "cousins" who are Native Central Americans, you have to consider those who are actually not from Spanish influence.

Many Aztecs and Mayans today have very little Spanish influence, but they are MesoAmerican. While you might call them cousins, they are only slightly genetic and you might as well say that Russians are their cousins also, because they were said to have come from Siberia.

But there are unique haplotypes among Native Americans, making them a unique genetic group, isolated from their "cousins".

The thing is here, in the US, the Native Americans have been given treaties that were continually violated over the many centuries of European/American governance. But Hispanics still recognize the Spanish language and culture. That's the difference.

If they are "cousins" then you should say the Siberians are their cousins also, but 12,000 years of Native American culture, of the Anzik and Clovis Point culture, I would have to say that Native Americans in the US are a unique genetic group. MesoAmericans are another unique genetic group.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: WarminIndy

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight


But like with some bullies maybe its born out of frustration at a world where they seem they have lost control over. Unemployment, jobs being exported, useless wars taking much needed taxes...I am in no way defending their abhorrent actions. I just wonder what with all the nervousness about US/Russian relations at the moment, the EU fragmenting, I wonder if this is one of the clues that we are heading for dark days ahead?

Are hemlines trending shorter or longer at the moment?

I respectfully disagree, this type of bullying existed when times are good or bad and yes bullies come in all forms, colors and shape, all that is needed is a perception of weakness be it physical, economic , numerical or political if you are perceived to be all four you are in for a world of hurt.

Earlier I used the scenario that if these kids were placed in L.A the sympathies of many here would drop..for out there, their Hispanic speaking cousins are in no way a small number and might well be a majority by now, matter of fact it is doubtful if the incident would have taken place in certain quarters.

I am well a where the census separate Latinos and Native Americans, but the reality is, while most Native Americans are not Hispanic,most Hispanics are Native Americans or carries a heavy doze of Native American genes.


Well, to be fair, Hispanic is a culture based on Spanish. While Native Americans are Native American because they are Native American, their Hispanic "cousins" who are Native Central Americans, you have to consider those who are actually not from Spanish influence.

Many Aztecs and Mayans today have very little Spanish influence, but they are MesoAmerican. While you might call them cousins, they are only slightly genetic and you might as well say that Russians are their cousins also, because they were said to have come from Siberia.

But there are unique haplotypes among Native Americans, making them a unique genetic group, isolated from their "cousins".

The thing is here, in the US, the Native Americans have been given treaties that were continually violated over the many centuries of European/American governance. But Hispanics still recognize the Spanish language and culture. That's the difference.

If they are "cousins" then you should say the Siberians are their cousins also, but 12,000 years of Native American culture, of the Anzik and Clovis Point culture, I would have to say that Native Americans in the US are a unique genetic group. MesoAmericans are another unique genetic group.


And yet we know that Atztlan lay north of Mexico where the Aztecs came from , trade and movement flowed both ways, and they may not be so unique that's like saying R1b and H are not equally European.
Yes there is an overlay of Spanish language but culture?? on a surface level that maybe true but on a deeper level they are in no way Spaniard,not unlike their northern cousins most of whom English is the first language and on the surface pop culture is what is practiced, but in their rural setting they may go deep roots.
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posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 01:43 AM
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When the culture in a position of dominance identifies another group of people as "other", it is a very small step to convert the term"other" to "lesser". Historically it is done most fervently by the less successful members of the privileged group.

Essentially it is poor, disadvantaged or unsatisfied people in the dominant class who cry foul out of fear and a misplaced sense of injustice when the groups identified as "other" begin to climb the ladder.

It doesn't just happen in America. Identifying "America" as the problem is neither fair nor accurate. 'Friendly' Canada also has a significant racism problem with respect to First Nations people that is current and real despite any improvements over the decades.

Any White Male in Western society that cries "racism" is calling themselves out. It is still "our" world and if you can't make it in a culture that STILL puts you first based solely on your gender and skin colour then the problem lies in the mirror alone and not the "other". Whatever that "other" is, be it race or gender.



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