a reply to: arpgme
I think you are being a bit vague and simplifying this. I see holes in your OP.
Heaven does NOT mean "Sky". The Hebrew is "Shamayim (שמים)". It means "heights" or "Elevations".
Our immediate sky is not soft and gentle. Whirlwinds, flooding rain and even volcanic ash fall out of it. In the Bible destruction comes from the sky.
The sky is not bright when it is filled with heavy clouds. Space is dark with only the light of stars, etc.
In the Bible the Hebrews referred to 3 Heavens, that is 3 Elevations. They are elevations so that does not count the ground (the earth). It means the
firmament, Space and The Father's House. The Third Elevation or Height mentioned by St Paul in Corinthians is The Father's House.
As above, so below, on earth as it is in Heaven is what we pray down from the Father's House and manifest on earth. The earth is physical realm where
good and evil are fighting a war. Remember that war is being fought in Heaven also.
The Father and Jesus are not some sentimental soft and gentle puppy loving hippies. In Israel practising Jews know that The Father blesses and curses.
He cursed us all with death in the time of Adam. Death is God's curse for disobeying Him. He poured fire down on Sodom and Gomorrah in judgement.
Jesus, resembling the Father was both gentle and stern. The Saviour could be gentle holding babies in his arms and He could be very stern and
righteously angry like when He drove the demons into the pigs and they all drowned, like when He whipped them in the Temple for turning it into a
"Den of thieves".
We make the mistake of giving God human traits. He is not human. We are just made in His Image (His Imagination). All that we know of Him comes from
Jesus, Saints and Prophets. They are the official representatives. We are vain if we think we know better.
Like with the case of St Paul. So many call him an imposter. Christians call Paul and imposter!!! I have no time for that. It is intellectually,
scripturally and spiritually stupid. They deny one of the greatest of the Christian Martyrs, who was beheaded for his testimony. I think those
Christian gnostic enough to abuse St Paul so are letting Satan in big time. I keep well away from such Gnosticism.
No, don't take away the fire and judgement from God. The Rider On The White Horse will "make war righteously", just as it is written in Revelation.
No amount of man's messing and trying to change the Word can stop this.
Jesus is not some peace and love hippy!