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Conspiracy Fact: The CIA and drugs

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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: Jchristopher5

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...Two years later, we should have better connected the dots with Gary Webb released his first documention of CIA involvement in Iran/Contra and drug trade with Nicaraguan drug lords. This resulted in the importation of crack coc aine into American cities, which quickly devastated many poor neighborhoods. His work was panned by much of the MSM, but his legacy lives on. He had court documents to back up many of his claims, showing CIA involvement with drug cartels.

If we need more evidence..... we can look at opium production in Afganistan since NATO occupation. The Taliban had all but wiped out poppy production. There is historical evidence of CIA involvement with Noriega. There is the legend of Mena, Arkansas. There is Barry Seal. The evidence for CIA involvement in global drug trafficking is over whelming. Why is this still referred to as a theory?

Finally, since this is not a theory and is fact, why are people not more outraged by this? Our government is locking up users with one hand (infamous "war on drugs") while supplying it with the other. We should be up in arms, but meanwhile it's okay, as long as we have a Super Bowl to watch.



Why aren't people more outraged by this? Two major factors:

1.) The mainstream media is controlled (Fox [Rupert Murdoch owned] is controlled opposition).

2.) Most people do NOT want to know the truth. If people knew how thoroughly corrupt this world is, they would be reeling in shock & fear. It's more comforting for them to believe in the official lies. They want to believe the Matrix is real.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:16 PM
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originally posted by: slider1982
Good evening, first post from a very long term forum follower.



The thing that opened my eyes to this was the Montel interview, I was sent a copy of this when it first aired years ago now on Youtube thankfully..









direct link, video is having issues uploading to site

www.youtube.com...



Well worth a watch..



RA.



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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: ThichHeaded
I am going to add things I know from this..

Look at this video here the beginning.. I only bring this up because I dont know the documentary or anything it is from.. And the end... its worth a listen also..


Next back in the day Tom delay's aid's plane was busted with 8 tons of coke in it..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

A plane used to transport 'terrorists' to gtimo and other places crashed with 3.2 or so tons of coke in it..
Link

The song above is a good into to how drugs start and finish.. Kinda like the bullets life and death in that movie "Lord of War"



Good little music video. I don't normally listen to rap, but the words are true. Looks like a montage of clips from different movies: starts with "Scarface" then there are scenes from "Blow" -- maybe "Traffic" -- inter-spliced with footage from a real documentary.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: dieseldyk
OP is 100% correct.

The way I see it

1. The global elite as they exist today come from drug traders. From the real silk road and the "spice" trade. To the opium wars between Britain and China. The elite have always prospered with drug money. wink wink royal family wink wink /sarcasm/

2. the wars of drugs is a farce. It has several functions and none are aimed at stopping drugs. first function is to eliminate competition in the drug trade. second is to have an excuse to over police the poor, Third there is the side benefit of the poor becoming felons losing the right to vote and becoming a resource of living bodies for the criminal justice system and the newly developing private prison system. Fourth, the drug users and their children and physically and mentally weakened and so are more open to manipulation and are less of a threat to the social order. Just think how Britain destroyed China with opium.

3. The banking system is propped up with trafficking drug money. There was an investigation on money laundering several years ago and when they turned to look at the banks, the investigation was quashed. Banksters make too much money for the elite for the drug trade to ever be stopped.

4. The CIA runs drugs and uses the money fund it off the the book operations. The drug money funds terrorism. And if you look at Mexico, the cartels control the Mexican government and the CIA controls the cartels. This is Iran contra on steroids, it never stopped.

5. The military act to enforce the drug trade monopoly

If you were able to follow the money I think the it would be structured like this
1. producers, like the opium fields in Afghanistan, which the US "liberated and protected" from the Taliban. Or Columbia where the US trained death squads protected the drug trade monopoly from "communist guerrillas" otherwise known as the competition.
2. drug mules, like CIA and MI6, who mule the drugs and make money from black ops. This is/was power base for a certain CIA director/POTUS. Iran contra was not Reagan's op it was his VP's.
3. Banksters laundering money and make billions if not trillions.
4. Global elite, owners and controllers and main beneficiaries of the drug trade. How do you think the .1% hold on to power in the stagnant and deflationary global economy. Think the British Royal family is irrelevant, think again.

You could go on and on about how royalty, certain families, intelligence agencies, politicians and banksters are all related to one another by blood, marriage and money.


Excellent post.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: Dabrazzo
Kill the Messenger


A reporter becomes the target of a vicious smear campaign that drives him to the point of suicide after he exposes the CIA's role in arming Contra rebels in Nicaragua and importing coc aine into California. Based on the true story of journalist Gary Webb.


Ok movie with Jeremy Renner about the CIA flooding America with coc aine. Its how they fund most of their wars I suspect.

Sadly though even on here you still get people defending these people LOL. Just shows you the power of propaganda.


No, I think taxpayers pay for wars. The money from these CIA (and other intel community) operations goes into slush funds and is used to pay off politicians to start wars, lobbying, buying weapons for third parties to start wars/rebellions/coup de tats, etc., it all comes down to flavor-of-the-day-agenda for their bosses. They also use the money to fund (and use) the adult and child sex trade, human trafficking, illegal weapons trade, etc., which apparently makes blackmail/extortion fun and profitable I suppose. The problem with taxpayer money on covert programs is that there is almost always an audit trail and therefore evidence of illegal activity. By collecting, steering and/or using money from illegal sources, there is no audit trail, certainly no accountability, no political control and of course no hard proof of illegal activity.

And just so you know, the CIA (and other intel operatives) make a lot more money off of weapons deals than they do drugs, the world illegal weapons trade is about 8 to 12 times larger than the world drug trade. I remember back in the late 80's, some Russians we knew and were reasonably "friendly" with, were selling nukes that were the size of softballs and with all the triggering and batteries, would fit in a briefcase. They were selling them for roughly the price of a BMW 328i, I remember the sales pitch ;-)

The intelligence agencies are just the covert arm of the money power, just like the UN is the political arm, it's just the intel agencies are all working together and they have a lot more "bite." The cold war was staged, just to make everyone think otherwise. If you tell CSIS (or any intel agency) something "hot" or they collect it from comms, the NSA/CIA (and most of the other intel agencies) have it in seconds to minutes. They all trade info, like good little comrades and filter the good stuff for their "bosses" ;-)

To make a NWO/OWG, all you have to do is have all countries aligned through economic treaties so that everyone is on the same page. It's not much of a push after that to get all the intel agencies (who are already on the same page) to force political change.

Cheers - Dave


Excellent post.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: Dabrazzo
a reply to: bobs_uruncle




No, I think taxpayers pay for wars.


Well they didnt for that one, thats the whole point, Reagen used funds from CIA drug trafficking to fund contra rebels and fight a war Congress denied him funding for. Google Iran Contra.




And just so you know, the CIA (and other intel operatives) make a lot more money off of weapons deals than they do drugs, the world illegal weapons trade is about 8 to 12 times larger than the world drug trade


You would think so but that seems very much doubtful, as difficult as it is to truly gauge the value of such a trade, global trafficking of narcotics even with conservative estimates eclipses almost all other commodities including weapons. Narcotics are easily one of the most commonly traded commodities on the planet compared to food, clothes and building materials.

The financial value of the global arms trade

Spending on illegal drugs this year


Excellent counterpoints.



posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:43 PM
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originally posted by: bigman88
Call me ignorant, but this very subject but is obvious, documented, proven fact can be used to tear apart any argument that anyone poses in favor of the governments position; wars all over the world, vaccines, media, anything.

And this is one of the key reasons why our inner city black neighborhoods are in shambles. I don't believe the assertion that drug trafficking was used specifically to fund illegal covert ops around the world; they can just get the money anyway they feel like, i am sure. Trafficking drugs into this country's poor inner city neighborhoods, which makes up a minority of the geographic mass in this country, and seizing the profits from the participants, seems like a very drawn and roundabout way to finance these murder operations.

These drugs were trafficked specifically for the purpose of weakening and subjugating the popualtion. Especially blacks. They could have trafficked this stuff all over the country i they wanted, but poor black neighborhoods was the pick. Also the government was running drugs way before the 80's crack explosion. They have been running heroin into poor areas since the 60's.

lsd was a government invention, which somehow found it's way into the hands of distributors and dealers.


Excellent, I agree. I think non-Whites in general are easy targets for exploitation and racial cullings. But then, I also believe the core Elites who really run this planet are closet Nazis. But we are ALL expendable cannon fodder and slave labor to them.

It would not surprise me if crack coke was intentionally developed to make it as addictive as possible.
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posted on Feb, 2 2015 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

originally posted by: slider1982
Good evening, first post from a very long term forum follower.



The thing that opened my eyes to this was the Montel interview, I was sent a copy of this when it first aired years ago now on Youtube thankfully..









direct link, video is having issues uploading to site

www.youtube.com...



Well worth a watch..



RA.



fixed


Looks like a good video, but it's 40 minutes long. Some other time.



posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 03:42 AM
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They flood the streets with the most dangerous and addictive drugs - cociane, heroin, crystal meth, ALCOHOL, ect. This is not just a money thing as has been discussed, it's to dumb down the population.

Now, let's take a look at the 'drugs' they don't flood the streets with - cannabis, psilocybin mushrooms, L S D, D MT, mescaline. They suppress these drugs as much as they possibly can because they alter your thought process and make you question things, they make you creative, they are not psychically addictive, they have been used for thousands of years and held sacred by cultures and religions.

To quote the greatest social critic and comedian that ever lived, IMO

~ Wouldn't you like to see a positive L SD story on the news? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition? Perhaps? Wouldn't that be interesting? Just for once?

"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather.

Bill Hicks

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edit on 3 2 15 by SensiblyReckless because: Actually I think the words are censored. I'm not discussing doing anything illegal btw




posted on Feb, 3 2015 @ 05:08 AM
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Here's another video it's The Dark Alliance story as told by Gary Webb:



posted on Feb, 4 2015 @ 04:17 AM
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a reply to: Jchristopher5

CIA has done false flag of 9/11

Which is even bigger than drug business and yet they are still here And in charge



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 01:09 PM
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I found this documentary about CIA drug trafficking. It's pretty much a 100% documented fact the CIA/Reagan/Bush administration partly funded the war against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua by running drugs into the US and using the proceeds to buy arms for the Contras, in the 1980s. Prepare to get your mind BLOWN when you watch this. So many people uncovered this operation; Rick Ross was their biggest client. Mike Rupert uncovered this and spoke about it at an LA city counsel meeting. Investigative journalist Gary Webb uncovered the story. Senator John Kerry uncovered the truth. CIA = coc aine import agency. This scandal goes right through Reagan Bush and through Bill Clinton as well. Some fo the best investigative journalists cut their teeth and made their careers on this story such as Robert Parry, and hardly no one alive in the US today even knows about. reagn/Bush.Oli North should all be in prison serving life sentences for this level of corruption.



More reading:

www.american-buddha.com...

www.salon.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Feb, 8 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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Read this and you probably won't look at the US government the same anymore. The US government is the largest criminal enterprise in the history of the world, especially the Bush family. This is a fact that was presented in a court of law at the trial of four Colombians who murdered THE BIGGEST DRUG SMUGGLER IN US HISTORY (who was also a CIA agent): that man, Barry Seal, had George HW Bush's phone number in the trunk of his car the day he was murdered...

www.idfiles.com...
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posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: AuranVector

originally posted by: bigman88
Call me ignorant, but this very subject but is obvious, documented, proven fact can be used to tear apart any argument that anyone poses in favor of the governments position; wars all over the world, vaccines, media, anything.

And this is one of the key reasons why our inner city black neighborhoods are in shambles. I don't believe the assertion that drug trafficking was used specifically to fund illegal covert ops around the world; they can just get the money anyway they feel like, i am sure. Trafficking drugs into this country's poor inner city neighborhoods, which makes up a minority of the geographic mass in this country, and seizing the profits from the participants, seems like a very drawn and roundabout way to finance these murder operations.

These drugs were trafficked specifically for the purpose of weakening and subjugating the popualtion. Especially blacks. They could have trafficked this stuff all over the country i they wanted, but poor black neighborhoods was the pick. Also the government was running drugs way before the 80's crack explosion. They have been running heroin into poor areas since the 60's.

lsd was a government invention, which somehow found it's way into the hands of distributors and dealers.


Excellent, I agree. I think non-Whites in general are easy targets for exploitation and racial cullings. But then, I also believe the core Elites who really run this planet are closet Nazis. But we are ALL expendable cannon fodder and slave labor to them.

It would not surprise me if crack coke was intentionally developed to make it as addictive as possible.


Not to worry, my color considering friends, our would-be overlords have plenty of drugs for the white man as well. For every race and culture to be sure. White folks seem to prefer the powdered form when it comes to coc aine. I'm pretty sure they're still using plenty of it these days...

I'm sitting here, I guess I'm having to fight off the cognitive dissonance as I'm writing this reply. My brain keeps trying to shut down, doesn't want to process it.

Thanks Jchristopher5, for bringing this BACK to my attention. This one really is a no brainer in terms of evil conspiracies. I suppose the terrible reality of this truth, that our foreign wars are conducted to empower and protect thugs and pushers, while we imprison people in our homeland for using the drugs provided by those pushers, is the reason we can let this one slip our mind sometimes. It makes me angry merely thinking on it.

Perhaps then that cognitive dissonance in confronting this terrible reality is why we don't consider this issue more.

I thought I had more to contribute when I started this post, but everything I keep trying to type up doesn't quite fit...I shall return and post again once I have something else intelligent to contribute. I guess I could add this, though:

How many people have bled to prop up this evil scheme? How many of them were our proud sons and daughters who had taken oaths to defend this nation and our freedom? How many patriots? How many innocent bystanders? How many have lost their freedom for the rest of their lives?



posted on Feb, 9 2015 @ 05:50 AM
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Wa reply to: engineercutout

Excellent post, and it said a lot, contrary to your concern that it didn't.

It is fairly easy to ignore the fact that our government deals in drugs. As you said, it upsets our cognitive dissonance to face the truth. Plus, the MSM will have no part in telling the truth on this subject, and reporting the facts.

If enough of us become aware, and get angry enough, we can change the world. Tell everyone you know, in a reasonable setting. That is what I try to do. Yes, I know that I rub some wrong with this, but so be it.
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posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 06:18 PM
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Late last year in Sydney, Australia. A private jet was searched by the NSW police force and over $2million in heroin was found on board. The plane was found to be registered to a FRONT company WELL KNOWN to be a CIA front. The officer that did the search wasn't told (supposedly) that it had been cleared to bring it into Australia. Now he's looking for another job elsewhere.



posted on Feb, 10 2015 @ 08:12 PM
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Found this to be pertinent to the discussion.


In 2014 the Afghan opium cultivation has once again hit a record high, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime’s 2014 Afghan Opium Survey.


Opium Survey

The article found HERE was written in 2005, but has a lot of good information and is well linked/referenced throughout. It was updated with an author's note in Jan 2015, so it is still very relevant. I even like the title

The Spoils of War: Afghanistan’s Multibillion Dollar Heroin Trade
Washington's Hidden Agenda: Restore the Drug Trade



posted on Feb, 14 2015 @ 08:23 PM
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Wassup with the CIA doing all this drug running then here in the US we lock up our people for buying and selling them? Wassup with that?



posted on Feb, 15 2015 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

It's a multi-billion dollar business. The proceeds help fund top secret programs, and line the pockets of slimy politicians, bankers, and the elite.

It is also reprehensible and inexcusable. The evidence is vast, and we should be demanding answers from our government. Instead we sit in stoned silence, and pretend it's not true.
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