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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
That's still your choice.
Belief is NOT a choice.
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: WarminIndy
I can say.. there is one God. There is one entity who has all knowledge within HIMSELF, not given, not learned, but one who carries/holds all knowledge within HIMSELF.
Anything which does not hold knowledge within HIMSELF without it being given or learned is less than God. God is in a class without classification - and none compares to HIM.
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus 1 Timothy 2:5
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Tangerine
I was healed of a disease that required constant medication multiple times a day to get through each day and from which there is no cure..
I have been christian for 2 and a half months and can quote the bible like it was written inside my soul..
Everyone here knows what I was.. and what I am now... that should be enough for anyone here to say well.. there is a chance this is true, so I will begin my own search..
if someone doesn't want to embark on a journey to find HIM, that is there business... but there is enough for someone to say.. it is possible she is NOT crazy... since she never has been before.. and she was healed of a disease.. and God knows there is no way she can quote the bible like that from herself..
so try it or not.. your choice.. no one forces.. God only wants those who want HIM..
Seriously, I didn't choose to be wrong about everything I ever believed... but this is where God said I am, after I said no matter what I will follow you.. just show me your truth, and no matter what I will follow...
He said I am found here, this is My truth..
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Tangerine
He is not found in a book..
He is living and not dead...
speak to HIM, HE hears, ask HIM, HE answers.. HE is alive...
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Tangerine
its not cult mantra... I am not asking you to join a cult.. I am saying if you like, you can speak to God and HE answers.
How do you think I know the bible? Do you think I have a photographic memory? Seriously? If I did I wouldn't be poor...
When I see someone ask a question I hear the answer, yes.. a voice speaks to me...
One day.. I learned everything I heard, was actually IN the bible.. so I started googling the explanation that I heard, and then telling the people what something meant from the bible itself.. because the words I hear are found there in the bible..
Sometimes now I don't hear the words.. sometimes I just suddenly know a thing... but that was how it started.. I just learned that everything I hear is in the bible..
crazy, but true..
no cult involved.. I have yet to even attend a church...
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
That's still your choice.
Belief is NOT a choice.
I think that, at least in some cases, it is. It explains why fundamentalists are so desperate to have others believe as they do: they're not so convinced as they pretend to be and need the comfort of a herd going in the same direction. Of course, you could say that making a decision to believe isn't really belief at all. I do take your point, if that's the one you're making.
originally posted by: windword
originally posted by: Tangerine
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: WarminIndy
That's still your choice.
Belief is NOT a choice.
I think that, at least in some cases, it is. It explains why fundamentalists are so desperate to have others believe as they do: they're not so convinced as they pretend to be and need the comfort of a herd going in the same direction. Of course, you could say that making a decision to believe isn't really belief at all. I do take your point, if that's the one you're making.
Yep. They made a choice to accept something on faith, without truly believing, believing that "that" would come later, I believe. Just like the guys who insist that being gay is a choice, because they have suppressed their own same sex attractions and called it "choice".
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: Tangerine
My disease was the result of failed back surgery..
when I first got hurt I had one back surgery, and then needed a second back surgery... when I had the second back surgery the doctor cut the nerve that went to my legs, and I was paralyzed from the waist down, and in a wheelchair..
suddenly one day, I was able to move my big toe.. it was actually something I did every single day, sat and tried to move my toe.. well two years in with the parallelization, and my toe actually moved one day..
was totally cool really.. I was so happy, and so were my doctors.. I did intensive physical therapy, did nothing else until I could walk again..
after I could walk again I had serious nerve damage in my legs though, and needed leg braces to walk, which was cool.. at least I was walking right?
But one day, the feeling which had returned into my legs changed, and I became hypersensitive to everything.. it was like suddenly I had WAY TOO MUCH feeling.. even noise became painful because of the vibration in noise, it was painful to have clothing touch my skin..and my legs literally felt like they were on fire.. like I was burning alive..
I had more than one specialist because of the surgeries, I had physical therapists, I had 2 orthopedic surgeons and 2 neurosurgeons because of all the spinal problems..plus of course my regular practitioner..I had MRI's out the ying yang and all manner of nerve conduction tests because of the paralysis and the return of feeling..
I was a money pot for all these doctors.. did you know in the first year alone I racked up over a million dollars in doctors bills? seriously, that stuff isn't cheap.. thank God for medical insurance at the time!
Anyway.. once all the feeling came back wrong.. they diagnosed me with CRPS Type 2 and sent me to the pain clinic doctors also, who did all manner of sympathetic blocks and fun things, I became a pin cushion..
I was diagnosed with CRPS Type 2 in June of 2000. I have gone to doctors of all kinds ever since, taken medicine daily ever since, and told by the doctors themselves that this was for life, there was nothing else they could do..I am too severe a case, and there is no cure for me..all they could do was give me as much relief for the pain as possible..
that was my disease.. I stopped taking all my medicine two months ago.. and have not had an ounce of pain at all, plus I can walk better.. although my legs are weak, I am working on getting them stronger..
used to be many times I couldn't even make it to the bathroom without help the pain was so severe.. if I was even a little bit late for my medicine then the pain would spiral out of control.. sometimes the pain would be so bad I would end up in the ER and they would give me IV dilaudid enough to bring the pain level back under control..
you learn in time how to deal with it in your mind... but now I am not just smiling through the pain, I am not in any pain.. I can dance! lol...
and now I don't need even one pill... crazy awesome!
I posted about it before on ATS..
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
so try it or not.. your choice.. no one forces.. God only wants those who want HIM..