a reply to: Kusinjo
This thread was as much "thinking out loud', looking at and discarding ideas and seeing where it ended up.
Your post moves this towards an overall picture, rather than merely environmental and Obama, unless I miss my guess.
So be it. My conspiracy views are way outside the norm- no, no tinfoil, LOL- I think you give too much credit to these guys. Period.
My basic foundation to the thought process is "None of these groups are monolithic". None of them. Period. Not oil, the Military-Industrial complex,
not even the central banks or the so-called 1%. Certainly not the U.S. Gov't or the military in general.
Where you point out examples and see them as connected, I see them as more dis-related than connected. Where many see conspiracy, I see gridlock.
massive overgrown, overlapping gridlock.
I see 'agenda' rather than conspiracy. From the smallest company, even families all the way to international issues. Personal agendas, regional
agendas, corporate ones, national ones...all at odds with each other. Yes some of those agendas move into the conspiracy definition. Even in those
'conspiracies' are conflicting internal agendas that can and do render the very conspiracies, short lived and often ineffective in their goals
Are there agendas that are taking advantage of the grid-lock and making strides, even conspiracies?
Absolutely. I also see them as being exposed and countered by other agendas that have very different goals.
Just one example that you gave, the militarizing of the police in the U.S.. I see also that a massive number of elected sheriffs have stood up and
refused to enforce Federal gun restrictions and in some cases, even restricting state laws that violate the 2nd amendment.
This group of law enforcement types tend to be more rural. The ones accepting the federal equipment tend to be in the cities. Cities are where the
heaviest crime occurs. Cartels and even terrorist activity. I, for one, want my police better armed than the bad guys. The local police forces are
definitely not monolithic at all.
Having said that, can a higher agenda/conspiracy take advantage of this down the road in some form of martial law? Sure. Bottom line is even if that
occurred, all the 'feds' would have would be the cities, and not even all of those. the rest? Nope. So much for the that one working.
I have many egs on this, including /especially oil, the world economy, etc.
So I'm not sure thee and me are even coming from the same place on this one. LOL. Anyways, that's a brief overview of my think on it, not that it's